Why are Zwift so bad at Running General Classification Events?

Of course it was! You’re a magician, James…

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hmm, either I’m blind and am not sure how to sign up for events with ZP, but just tried looking for myself in the points standing and my name never appears.
sad

If you’re on Zwiftpower, send me a link to your profile and I’ll have a look.

/profile.php?z=4131464

I don’t know why this forum is the most confusing thing in the world to me, but this is the best I guess I can do hah, won’t let me send links, no idea how to private message… it’s a struggle!

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Here you are Andrew - You have to look at the B category, in case you weren’t doing that already

ahhhh I see what has happened; if you don’t have a category actually selected it seems to force it to display just A (I was presuming it was showing all cats, doh!) Thanks James!

I think the categories don’t show up if you are looking on mobile.

yeah, the website doesn’t scale very well on mobile, it is better if you view it landscape on mobile however.

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Why does Zwift use the same classes as their races? Seems to bring quite a bit of confusion as well for these general events. While we all know it’s “not a race” yet some treat them as such…
Why not have L, M, S and W be the categories? Long, medium, short and Women. Make them different colors, heck create new symbols or something.

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You could call them whatever you want but the outcome would be the same. Some people do always turn them into a race, rightly or wrongly.

Some people use them as race training given the high numbers of people participating.
Some people use them as a recovery ride.

In reality it’s what you want it to be for yourself.

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Short answer to this is that only A-E are available.

Short question is: why? O_o

People will do what they want, you are absolutely correct. By naming them something other than the same thing as races it would prevent confusion for new Zwift riders. A-D are Races and blank-blank are event rides. Yes you can race both. Heck, you can free ride races if you wanted as well. My goal is more to avoid the entry level rider confusion with entering one of the two largest Zwift events.
At the end of the day people will do as they please, but avoiding the confusion up front is more the goal with different classifications.

I think the L, M,S,W is a great idea.
They could the do a GC for each category.

I bet people would complain because all the podium spots would go to the faster riders, go figure, is that right ?

Agreed. Just yesterday after finishing the Stage 1 longer ride I saw a comment in chat from someone saying it was their first A race.

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But would non English speakers understand L,M,S & W?

At least to the majority of languages A,B,C is universal as the first letters of the alphabet and provides a logical order.

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You’re absolutely correct! I was giving a random suggestion and could happily pick a different set of characters, numbers, colors, pictures etc. Just something that would showcase Races A-D versus Events “x”-“x”.

Never gonna prevent fliers and I won’t get into asking why a leaderboard is even necessary on events, but just curious why they use same categories when it creates confusion. People thinking they are in an A Race really aren’t. I’m a D racer myself and not criticizing people for joining these thinking they are racing, I wish I was fast enough for an A race!

After further thoughts, perhaps A-E could be set for tours/ events that aren’t races, but people treat as races…. (Just remove “leaderboard”)…

1-5, creating a 5th category for racing. 5th tier could be below 1.5 and then tweak 1-4, but just different classifications.

I could definitely set this up, but it is very time consuming.

I do it for zRacing monthly and the Zwift TT Club.

The difficulty here is that the different categories are used for different routes in TDZ and I don’t have faith in people’s ability to follow instructions by having a “racing category”

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