a few on here have assumed that @calfzilla is giving info in good faith, despite the fact he does the classic keep changing the thing he’s complaining about
Regardless… the point stands. Swap the genders in the posters and tell me how this plays out.
Have you ever been sexually harrassed on there? I have! I had a male ride leader DM me saying “You make me ■■■■■” while he was leading. Yes it got reported and yes I spent a year long battle with Zwift and their legal team to get him removed which they finally did. Yet yall on here defending this dude because I said “keep the rear perky”? Many ride leaders say that and I’m guessing you don’t ride lead either, do you? We are UNPAID volunteers that host these rides and yet here yall are, ganging up on a female because some dude couldn’t hang with my pace for 100k.
None of that gives you a pass for your response or choice of language. You seem to want double standards here.
The issue you describe, and the action being discussed are completely separate entities.
apparently it does, since you couldn’t keep up and had to be swept and you complained about that too.
You literally mentioned it my group ride!!! Seriosuly dude?? You keep changing your narrative! So which do you have an issue with? First it was me, now it’s “just general”. So which is it?
What language? Screenshots? I see no evidence of so called language. There are far less female ride leaders on Zwift and I can tell you from experience that the whole “boys will be boys” goes far in the land of Zwift, so don’t talk to me about double standards.
The language in your response above, as I’ve said if a male ride leader responded mocking a female rider who couldn’t keep up, they would be roundly condemned and probably take a ban for it.
You want to have impunity to do that, whilst criticising the same type of responses from boys club. Your response is no different to those boys club you rightly complain about.
But yet here you are defening someone who came on here to trash talk me without evidence. I’m not one to hunker down when attacked. I will stand my ground.
I’m not defending the poster - I’ve raised an issue with your response as its reeks of double standards.
Answer honestly, If a male ride leader mocked you on this forum, what would your response be?
Yes you are! You have defended him since his post. So you’re defending his mocking of me? My so called “sexual innuendos” without evidence?
And I have taken steps to flag this since it offers no actual help to the community, other than to complain and trash talk a ride leader becasue they got dropped.
Feel free to quote where this happened?
Wow, every fact wrong and wildly inappropriate. I was never in need of the sweep. And please quote where I used the word “bro.” Swap the genders here and the forum would explode.
I’ll definitely save a screenshot of your post in case you realize how this makes you look.
Please work on your reading comprehension. I was in the lead group when what your hysterical about happened. Maybe “through” instead of “past” would’ve been a better word choice.
I wasn’t talking to you about locker room talk. I was expressing my opinion about what I like and don’t like.
I too don’t like harassment. I don’t like that and I don’t like locker room bro vibes. I have no idea who could or couldn’t keep up on the ride, and that has no bearing on my own likes and dislikes.
You seem to think that coming out guns blazing towards me is somehow appropriate based on your anger at another user. I would suggest you rethink that stance.
Not sure what you’re saying here in your reply to me. Are you saying you’re going to try to get me booted from Zwift for saying I don’t like locker room bro vibes? If you mean that in reference to another user, please direct your comments towards that user. I don’t prefer to be harassed for my own innocuous comments, particular given your expressed dislike of harassment.
To be clear: I am defending no one, and I am attacking no one. If you claim your ride did not contain sexual innuendo, fine. I’m no more likely to join your ride anyway given your treatment of me here, so that may be a wash. But I doubt you care, so leave me out of this.
I’m sorry you had to deal with that, genuinely. Your insane reaction to me not enjoying your ride is unrelated and not excused by something someone else did to you in the past. It’s ok if you want to just apologize and delete all of these posts.
Apparantly so since you’ve decided to get on here and trash talk me.
Please quote the post in which I trash talked you.
I’m not aplogizing for anything! I’m no the one playing the victim on here, you are. You’re the one on here that said you have an issue, not me. So you can stop with the gaslighting.