Surfeit of ZHQ events

When will ZHQ stop swamping the calendar with empty events nobody wants to join? This snippet is from today but it was the same yesterday, the day before, the day before that…

Why have these events not been relegated to “shareable club events” in line with the requirements for community races? Zwift Announces Race Calendar Cleanup | Zwift Insider

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i don’t mind this - keep going ZHQ.

Some of those are on unpopular routes, that’s the problem.

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I don’t know, I feel like ZHQ should chill on the amount of events they offer so some of our community organizers can scoop up the very few people looking for races in the summer, they can come back strong in the fall and winter.

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Per @James_Zwift “larger racing fields provide a better racing experience and therefore we are now seeking to increase minimum race fields on the public calendar.”

ZHQ is knowingly and intentionally creating a worse racing experience for users.

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unfortunately you’ll need to go and post this on facebook somewhere for James to see it

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Many of the events with “Zwift” in the name are not operated by HQ, including some in your search results, and your search results are not limited to races, but in general I agree and have shared this feedback with them as well. I suspect they are also responding to the common complaints from people who want to enter the heavily promoted ZHQ events but don’t find one at their desired time, so they ask for more ZHQ events instead of entering community events.

My suggestions include:

  1. Promote community races in the Zwift weekly emails and on the racing landing page on zwift.com
  2. Prune the calendar to remove zombie events that have been repeating for years but don’t have active maintainers promoting the events
  3. Consider picking community organizers to take over some of the smaller events operated by ZHQ (and I don’t mean WTRL).
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The TT Club races would be great if they could be consolidated into a 24 hour event that you could start any time, make it a global event. Hill Climb Club too, these are essentially hill climb TTs.
That would reduce some of the clutter.
The Crit Club races could be moved away from the peak periods, there’s often a community organised crit event on at a similar time anyway.

And please do this. If the event doesn’t have category enforcement, but the description says they will enforce zwiftpower categories, then there’s a good chance the organiser hasn’t looked at it in years.

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Two out of a couple dozen, not relevant. A few are also women’s training club events and I’m not suggesting eliminating those. But for anyone not trying to argue just to argue and/or be pedantic it’s obvious from my snippet that ZHQ is flooding the calendar with empty events, that they themselves said lead to a worse experience.

This would be great, a leader board for the whole week inside zwift would be nice. and a notification at the the end of the week showing how you did compared to your friends, your age group, you cat and overall. Promote it on the home screen get them off the events list.

Actually indievelo used to have something like this, weekly challenge? Maybe it still does.

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My lord, the guy was agreeing with you, do you always have to be so abrasive? You must be real fun at parties.

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This is an interesting idea.

How would the leaderboard work, who gets the prize for the top time?

Whoever has the best time in the entire 24 hour (or whatever) period wins. A lot of community-run races (plus ZRL) have iTTs in them and creating a feature like this where you can just do it at your leisure would be huge. The start delay feature in the TT system gets part of the way there.

Pointing out something I got “wrong” in an attempt to diminish the impact of my post is “agreeing?” Ok

yeah you got a detail wrong and he corrected you, and then literally said “in general I agree”

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You’re ascribing a motivation to my comment that doesn’t exist. You said what you think. I said what I think, which is mostly in agreement. I don’t owe you more than that. If you disagree with one of my posts I don’t feel diminished in any way - please go ahead and engage with the details if you want.

Imagine if Zwift HQ looks at those two comments and tries to learn something from them - what do they conclude? Hopefully they conclude that something should be done about the overstuffed calendar.

In your example, 20 events are spread over a period of 8 hours. Hardly swamping.

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i can see the itt , one sign up and you do it at your own time. maybe have like 3 or 4 group itt.

nobody rides community TTs either but i agree with your sentiment. also it’s been this way for a while but ZP signups are lagging behind the real signup counts often… a few times i’ve joined a race that had like 5 on the zp signup sheet an hour before then like 30 people show up in the pen. i dont think anyone is in a rush to sign up for a TT any day of the week though, whether zhq are hosting it or the community host it. they just aren’t popular

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Hill Club was fairly popular when I was trying it end of last year; I joined the iTT club but still have yet to do a race. But yeah, I never see anyone actually signed up early for them here in the US times.

Granted; the competition for Hill Club and iTT are Zwift Power League… so for them, signup counts on the daily don’t actually matter, as they’re time attack races with no draft anyway.

There could be 20 fewer low-quality events that don’t meet ZHQ’s standards for existing on the public calendar.