Sticky watts and activity suppression

You know how many complaints there will be from people with weak signals.

There is a reason why there’s a bit of a delay in stopping the avatar.

Agreed - it could be a problem… or possibly not. I really dont know. People put a lot of effort into getting their turbo set up nicely. Is it too much to ask that the zwift bluetooth/ant+ receiver is within 5m of the turbo to ensure a good signal (I know there are other factors, but certainly when the nodes are within 2-3m of each other there is very little that can interfere with the signal)
That said, the avatar would freewheel and not stop dead. I’m simply giving some simple solutions ideas. A more complex one might be a ping between zwift and the turbo. Afterall, zwift is sending resistance data to the turbo anyway and there is always the lower level bluetooth handshake messages. I’m keen to know if any turbo addresses this problem by actually pushing out zero watts events for a few seconds to reflect actual rider behaviour when the rider stops pedaling.

Then people will just pedal different. 600w 20w 600w 20w 600w 20w 600w 20w 600w 20w.

It is good that we think about solutions, but it won’t be an easy solution, it may look clear cut in one or two plots but there are thousands of riders doing all kinds of crazy pedaling methods.

Removing the overly aggressive autobraking (supposed to be gone in the next release) will make single-second dropouts have less of an impact. And hiding problems with the signal does not seem like a very good strategy to me in the first place.

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I don’t think it’s hiding problems. It’s like average data to remove spikes to get a better picture of what is going on.

IRL if you stop pedaling you keep freewheeling for some time.

Still, a proper average (whether over a few seconds or an entire ride) only includes watts actually reported by the PM.

Yes, indeed, and that’s at 0 W actual. Zwift currently slowing you down much quicker than that (except when supertucking) is exactly what I meant with overly aggressive autobraking.

From my testing it seems trainers are given sticky watts more than power meters. In both Zwift and TPVirtual, the trainers I’ve tested get a full 3sec of positive power after stopping pedaling, while power meters instantly go to zero. This same 3seconds is not shown on a Garmin head unit. The difference racing is significant, paired to a power meter, if I stop pedaling even for an instant, everyone blows past me and my avatar slows significantly, very unnatural.