Racing score stuck?

Why isn’t my zFTP, Pace Group or Racing score changing?

My zFTP on zwiftpower is stuck at 138w even though my FTP is clearly 3.52/236w (67 kg rider) on both the Zwift website and in the bar & power charts on Zwiftpower and my worst race’s FTP was 206.

My pace group also seems to be stuck at D and my racing score hasn’t changed once and is stuck at 11 even though I’ve raced up categories with decent results.

So far I’ve won an E race, placed 2nd, 4th and 7th in D races, and in the top half (32/71, 7 secs behind 1st) of a C race. My race score on Zwifts site shows an up arrow next to my race score for every race yet it has never actually changed. My wife, who has never raced and rides about 1/10th of what I do, somehow has a better racing score

I realize this ultimately doesn’t make a difference in the end but it’s a bit frustrating when Zwift constantly recommends I race at the lowest level.

Has anyone else had this issue?

You should feel free to race in a higher category if you want. Do whatever feels right.

If the data looks wrong in the Fitness section of your feed on my.zwift.com then I would write to zwiftpower@zwift.com to ask about it

Yes, you’re an interesting case-study and have been noticed. No fault of your own, but somehow the system has really screwed up with your profile. @TimHanson was going to ask zwift to look into this.

The data is all collected correctly and seems to show in ZP, but the resulting calculations of both your legacy CE zFTP, and your ZRS is way off base.

ht tps://forums.zwift.com/t/zwift-racing-score-october-2024/636179/604

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Thanks @Wannie. Yes, everything seems fine on the front end. All the data is there and uploaded correctly but something funky is definitely happening with the back end calculations used to generate those data points.

It’s worth finding out – if there’s one case like yours, how many more could there be?
@shooj @James_Zwift could perhaps look into this as well.


i hit 405 :stuck_out_tongue: , why it dont go down more ?

You hit your floor score. That seed score -15%

Only way to lower it anymore is to let your 90 days 30s and 10m records expire.

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The OP has comparable power and has a ZRS of 11. You need to try harder

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I’ve seen a number of 11 scores in Herd Beginner Races that look to be behaving similarly sticky, I think this is an actual algorithm problem.

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Isn’t there at least 2, 11 and ~99 scores that racers get on the way to having completed five Racing Score races, before they get a “proper” score?

Not sure. He has 4 so far, but it also doesn’t explain his zFTP number

Fwiw, I should actually be right at 5 races: 2 E, 2 D & 1 C.

Your Mayan8 D race wasn’t ZRS though, I think it was CE system. 2 of your other D rides were Rides, not races

I agree that 2 and 11 seem to be popular scores. I wonder if they somehow correspond to a minimum watts or w/kg not being meet for either or both of 30s and 10 min power?

Where did you read about 5 races being required to get a ‘proper’ score?

The five races thing was back when Racing Score beta started, or at least that’s what I thought I read.

I can’t find any relevant mention of that fact on forum or FAQ.

I think @TimHanson said that the 5 races thing is not a thing

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That’s right! :+1:

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Ahh okay, didn’t know that one wasn’t under the new scoring system. But yeah I figured the rides wouldn’t be factored in.

Yeah my wife, who only casually rides for 30 mins here and there, has never raced and has a higher racing score then me so I don’t think that’s it.