That is the difficult one to upgrade if you aren’t doing 100km+ daily.
I have about 200km left to do level 5 on the SL8. I’ve got the Aethos to level 2, about 1225m+ to go until level 3 - that’s an ADZ ride with some extra repeats of a few sectors.
I’m not doing Zwift on the weekends unless the weather is bad, prefer IRL riding.
I wonder what the community take would have been on this if Zwift went an entirely different direction on these upgrades, and instead put them in on their Shop site? $50, $100, $200.. dunno – how much would some spend?
Of course no cycling effort required to get a halo bike, but that’s just like IRL. OTOH, we witness the not infrequent claims that something like steering is a money-grab and a pay-to-perform device. So maybe it’s why they didn’t go this route with the Halo bikes.
I’m glad there ain’t micro transactions in Zwift, but I would probably be the first to purchase the Pina TT…despite nearly every other TT outpreform it.
None of the Halo ones are game changers. The upgrades, yes, as we might be talking 10 watts (including socks), but that is for a full upgrade, and one bike only…IOW. Even that wouldn’t be pay to win if grinding still was an option.
For how long ? We are now 5 weeks into the upgrades. Everyone who is taking racing a bit serious has to be at level 3 at least by now. So the differences are minimal and will vanish all together within weeks.
Even Cat has already done 3 frames to level 5.
Pretty much what I’m saying.
Fairly easily obtainable, and there ain’t no performance reason to go for the Halo bikes
The socks also only gives a limited boost…1/3 of the better IRL options
Even cat?? yeah cause she hardly does any mileage right?
English is not my native language. It was meant as something good and impressive.
fair enough, even in that sentence made it sound like if they can do it anyone should be able to.
But i’d have no idea how to say anything in any language other than English (and even then I struggle at times!) so in no way having a go at you for that!
Zwift costs too much for microtransactions; plain and simple.
Games nowadays with mtx are either free to play always, or are now, and were only a one time cost which would’ve been under $100.
The only way mtx could come to Zwift is if they were PUMPING out colorways and bikes on the monthly and slashing their costs, which they are not; and still, being a subscription model would really damage their own model, not lift it.
Could it be done? Sure, at the cost of hiring a few more artists full time, but again… good luck supporting it, most people would buy one or two things and then never buy anything again, and I would safely assume a lot of this stuff would have to be done under contract from the manufacturer, unless they do literally everything under Zwift brand bikes, which… probably wouldn’t sell nearly as well as colorways or bikes that match current real world frames.
Long story short, microtransactions would be a total flop for Zwift and not even worth the effort. It would massively upset the community, require a larger art team, and likely be held back by contracts to manufacturers; that last one being the heavy hitter in why it would fail.
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
Never under estimate the stupidity of those trying to impress the people who look after the balance sheet..
Zwift has instructions for downhill riding - at least on the Ven-Top route. 
It says “EARN THAT DOWN HILL”
Not sure whether these Halos would be consider micro or macro transactions 
Also, I’m not sure you can compare to regular gaming though. You’re starting with a base customer who has purchased a bike, trainer, computer and/or monitor, trainer mat, fan, gloves, cycling shorts, etc. and that’s on top of the monthly or annual subscription. Is paying some extra for a groovy looking halo bike out of the question; if only 10% of Zwifters did it, at eg. $100 for the virtual bike, how much revenue would that be?
I know I have never seen regular gamers complain in quite the ways that Zwifters do about the software.
“I loooove the Mega Cannon, but it’s lame that I can’t get it in blue, this game sux.”
“I like running around and shooting everyone, but can’t I get customize sound effects?”
“The smoky parts make it hard for me to see around corners, turn off the smoke plz.”
“Why isn’t the HUD completely customizable? I want ammo on the bottom right and health on the top middle and the mini map on the bottom left, this whole thing is almost completely useless.”
They did, they did strenuous exercise setting up a bot account to get to top of the mountain then controlling the computer to teleport to it and do the descents at 300kg weight.
One rider (from a club beginning with letter T) admitted to me in chat he was doing exactly that.
Zwift is full of cyclists who have a reputation for complaining about most things.
My annual whinging license Zwift subscription is due for renewal in a few weeks 
lol, no I’m saying I don’t see it as a possibility; I don’t think Zwift’s design team is anywhere even large enough considering the rate of updates / fixes we see on bikes and worlds etc.
I get where yall are coming from, they could for sure squeeze a few more dollars out of some portion of the customerbase, but I would suspect the number of “return customers”, as it were, wouldn’t overcome the effort involved… and again, how much connection there would have to be to manufacturers for it to be worthwhile. (ie: is there a reason why the color slider is such a rare commodity???)
For some brands, and some colorways, yes, it … could be feasible, but I think it would upset the general community abroad, or, not even strike the smallest of interest from the vast majority of users who don’t even know yet that more than one bike model even exists on Zwift (you know they’re out there!)
One thing is for sure though… they’d lose all those level up subscription bots when all the bikes are sold individually!.. which is probably a downer for them 
I thought only one person was doing a 24hr record but I guess there are more attempts happening at the same time. Seen at least 6 but this guy seems to be on pace.
There aren’t any number of bots that have that record by now?
That’s slow, how about the folks doing 500km with 70km/h average speed?
All obviously correct, given the strenuous support and mental gymnastics for the ways they achieve that.
Unless you mean the effort above is actually a real one..
