They do all take effort… But do you equate 1 indoor mile to 1 outdoor mile?
As a metric I just don’t see what value it brings when quite clearly with the speeds on zwift make it meaningless.
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Not really. 1 mile on a 10% climb is not the same as 1 mile on a flat road.
Tracking mileage when doing different routes is meaningless.
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so what do you track in strava
OTOH, outdoors you can coast and get free distance. In Zwift, the software brakes you unnaturally below a certain speed.
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ATL/TSS and CTL
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Not really anything on Strava, but on GoldenChaeta I track TSS, Weekly duration, CTL and TSB
Completely agree. Coffee break distance should not count.
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Tbh, I can’t believe still that Zwift have not rectified this issue.
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Paul, it doesn’t have anything to do with racing, so don’t reckon it will get looked at anytime soon
Not sure why some people are so bothered by the coffee break. If you are worried about recording wrong mileage, don’t use it. If you are worried about others trying to record wrong miles, or getting free miles… WHO CARES. it has nothing to do with you. It does not affect you in any way. The whole idea of a coffee stop is convenience. Click the button, quickly grab a water, towel or whatever you need and resume pedaling. Use it just as it was intended. Appreciate the convenience of the Coffee Break, and stop worrying about the other riders.
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Well said Doug.
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Tbh, I can’t believe that people are so worried about this 
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it’s a game you have unlocks, levels, badges all sorts it’s quite normal people exepct it to be fair as possible nevermind own personal tracking of distance on top of that. like a few suggest is it a big deal no not really but would be better if it wasn’t even a debate and the only sensible thing would be to not count miles when you are not riding the bike.
But now the feature is here it’s probably be parked as completed so i doubt if will change or they would need to think about what it does for strava data etc. Straight lines between stops probably.
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Well, that’s an opinion. Others are available. It all seems to be borne out of some concept of “fairness” which, IMHO, only matters if you consider it to be competitive.
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What is the reason that you would want to count those miles when not actually riding?
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I understand the opinion of folks saying “Who cares?”. At some level nothing matters at all in the grand scheme of things.
But I don’t understand the opinion of “Yes those miles during a coffee break should count.” other than it’s extra effort to implement a change which takes away from other things, which then boils back down to “Who cares?” as the primary opposing opinion.
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My guess is that the issue is not so much just free riding around. As discussed, on a RP free ride you can teleport back. If you’re riding with friends, you can teleport back to them too I think if you just do a complete stop. Otherwise it falls into the who cares… If I don’t want the hassle of teleporting in order that a mile of distance doesn’t get counted, then that’s up to me.
The issue is more likely group ride events. You can’t teleport back to a group ride. And, I suspect that if the miles aren’t counted, then maybe there’s something with the ride validation that would stop you from registering a complete event (even though curiously many of these allow late joins which I think still entitles you to badge/jersey unlocks).
So, if you can get a badge for completing a ride that you started half-hour late, or a jersey unlock for showing up in the starting pen and riding for 2 minutes of a 60minute timed event – then it probably doesn’t make sense to disqualify someone for taking a 3 minute coffee break if the broken mileage isn’t compatible with event completion verification?
Did someone actually provide an opinion that they should count? I can see the ‘who cares’ comments (that they are counted). I thought most everyone would agree that ideally they shouldn’t count – if there were no other adverse ramifications.
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I thought it was implied in Colin’s comment where he quoted Gordon’s message “only sensible thing would be to not count miles when you are not riding the bike”, where he said “Well, that’s an opinion. Others are available”.
To me that implies there’s another opinion where it is the right thing to do to count the miles. But maybe I’m reading that incorrectly.
I totally understand the perspective that it’s not a huge deal, and Zwift should focus elsewhere. There’s a lot of stuff that needs to be fixed, and lots of features to focus on etc.
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Probably because there will be people who do very long routes in a group ride expecting to get a completion badge and if they don’t get it because of a coffee break they will be whining far more than the people whining about people getting free miles.
Zwift’s objective is to reduce the amount of whining to the minimum because there is no way in hell that they can eliminate it completely.
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I wonder if anyone who thinks that Zwift should disable mileage / xp while on coffee break have attained, or are working towards the Tron Bike?
And if they have ever done a workout before they achieved the 50,000m of climbing needed to get it?
I know several people who did workouts up Alpe du Zwift set at easy wattage in order to get the Tron, rather than actually free riding for the vertical metres.