Hi, Does anyone know why Zwift does not support Kettler Run 7? Run 7 has BT, so it should be easy to pair, apparently it does not work. Any workarounds? BR Marek
@Marek_U unfortunately just because something has Bluetooth doesnât mean itâs compatible with Zwift. A lot of treadmills have a closed or proprietary Bluetooth to communicate with their heart rate monitors only. IIRC Zwift requires an open Bluetooth protocol. You can find the list of supported treadmills on the Zwift website.
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Thanks, I will try to contact Kettler than. Hope there is a firmware upgrade or something.
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Hi there, i also have a kettler run 7 and i cannot make it work with zwift. I keep on searching on the web, but if you find a solution, please let me know! Thanks! Gia
Hello @Gia_Mai welcome to the Zwift forums.
Supported treadmills are listed on support.zwift.com. The Run 7 is not one of the Kettler models that works.
A good alternative is a run pod or North Pole Engineeringâs RUNN.
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Thank you for the reply. I m just a bit surprised since the treadmill does have bluetooth and does « broadcast » the speed, incline, etc. to the Kinomap/Kettmaps iphone app. Is there anyway to make the kinomap « communicate » with zwift? Many thanks, gia
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There are many flavors of Bluetooth, and not all of them are the open standards compatible with Zwift or other third party apps. Some treadmills are designed to only work with that manufacturerâs display head or iPad app.
Hello @shooj
The NoblePro Elite Series of treadmills are fully FTMS compatible and work well with Zwift. They are also callibrated within 0.5km/h which means good accuracy in speed.
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CSAFE protocol allows to control the speed of the treadmill. It also transmits incline data as well and it is possible to change the incline using it. So technically it would be possible and the CSAFE to ANT+/BT adaptor has been on the market for some time now.
I think that controlling the speed of the treadmill may cause some safety issues. If you create a structured workout for a bike and enter such a power that you cannot handle, you just stop moving and thatâs it. In case of a treadmill, itâs not that obvious - if you wear safety clip, then it would stop, but otherwise it could bring some injuries.
But for incline - why not making use of it? Even if for whatever reason Zwift would not like to implement control of it, why not read incline data and draw elevation profile and calculate calories based on that? It would be really nice feature.
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Many commercial treadmills automatically alter speedâ either during a structured workout, or, in response to HR during a heart-rate constrained run.
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The BLE protocols for this are published and readily available.
Nothing stopping this from implementation except fear
Yeah, but one thing is to allow control from manufacturerâs own firmware which is in full control of the producer, and another one in case of 3rd party. If the treadmill runs amok accelerating from 6 to 16 due to some bug in the software, or network glitch, who would be responsible if someone breaks his arm for example?
You are correct! Absolutely!
The response to wacky or abrupt speed changes is certainly treadmill dependent. But it can be done. For example, with my True800, Speed changes are implemented at the hardware level in the PWM controller. My upper console communicates with the motor controller using serial protocol. If I send speed=0, the motor controller ramps down. But the ramping down is opaque to this serial.
I think most Treadmills do this, making it impossible for a bad console command to jerk the treadmill to a stop.
Yes, you got a point, even if I press emergency stop button, the belt would come to the stop quickly but not suddenly. Acceleration is also rather smooth - the controller does the job, but True800 is rather performance model, as well as mine C966i, but Iâm not sure the other ones behaves like that too. Anyways, I contacted NPE support and their dongle and API has it all - speed and incline readout and control - in both ways. Itâs up to 3rd party apps to implement it.
False, it does support reading inclination. Check my project here github cagnulein/qdomyos-zwift
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Hi, how have you got on with the Noble treadmill, looking at it as an option to buy, thanks.
I have the smart one and still have issues. I have the TM set on MPH and Zwift on MPH but they donât sink the TM seems to show as KPH I have only had it showing Mph on both once.
If buying again I would not go with smart one just buy the belt reader to link it and foot pod.
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No problems with the treadmill itself then bar the speed sync issue? 
No TM is fine just the connection speeds which is nothing really.
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Useful feedback thanks, as also considering buying one.
Were customer support helpful even if they could not resolve?
Customer support not the best, netflicks does not work now on smart TM and I reported it and heard nothing back. I have learnt to live with the speed showing different in an ideal world it should match for the price you pay.
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