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Hi @jim_rm if you were at level 60 with 750,000 xp, then rode 1 more kilometer to have 750,020 XP prior to this update, you would then have 20 banked XP.
In your first ride after the update, your Rider Score would show a 3 chevron icon indicating that you’re in accelerated leveling. After earning 20XP by riding 1 new kilometer, your Rider Score would increase by 20, while your “Until Next Level” amount would decrease by 40 (20 earned matched 1:1 with your banked XP). At that point, your banked XP would be exhausted, and you would then be in level transitioning with a steep discount from level 60 upwards into the 90s.
The amount required between levels for Zwifters in level transitioning will be different for each Zwifter based on their precise Rider Score before the update, but it will all end up with every Zwifter who reaches level 99 being 11,000 XP from level 100.
@B_Jimmy @Sven_Setterdahl no amount of XP is banked in this update. Whatever banked XP you had earned by riding at level 50 when it was the max (or level 60 when it was the max) will apply back to your Rider Score at a 1:1 rate to all newly earned XP until it’s gone. Once banked XP is gone, you’ll still be in level transitioning and will be leveling up at a faster rate that a new Zwifter under the new XP scale.
Thank you, I appreciate that!
That’s not happening though is it? I have found that the rider score increases by 20XP but the XP needed to reach the next level decreases by 40XP.
I’ve got over 1.3m XP and only accelerated to 98, so you are going great.
Thank you @Aoi_Niigaki , you’re exactly correct. Too much staring at numbers for me, recently. I edited my previous comment to fit the correct behavior.
Rider Score is your life time total XP, so it’s the sum of your banked XP and up-to-lvl-60-XP and only progresses at the normal rate.
So extra XP earned through streaks gets added to your rider score ?
That doesn’t feel that much helpful. When I reach level 92 then I will still have 281,296 XP that haven’t been utilised, which is 55% of my current XP that I have spent 8 years accumulating. So the effort of 4½ years is gone.
Effectively the levels have lost their utility for comparison. As I said, once I reach level 100 then I’ll have about 900k XP but a new player starting today would reach level 100 at about 600k XP. My level 100 will therefore have been 50% more difficult; their level 100 will therefore not be comparable to my level 100.
Yes, after finishing the ride.
It would be nice to get it as an XP drop as soon as the required 2km has been ridden. It could be the thing that tips someone over into the next level during their ride and enables them to put on a new item or buy a newly unlocked bike or wheels (or indeed ride a level-locked road).
Awarding it at the end of the ride might do the same of course, but I don’t know if the user experience is the same in that case. Do riders still get the pop-up banner with the item they’ve just unlocked?
Maybe @Rowdy knows the answer to that.
I didn’t. Finished a ride, 285xp to next level on pause screen. Saved ride and new Streak screen gave me 400 xp and moved me to level 44.
Thought I might see something at start of next ride but nothing, no note of new ski kit or notification of level 44.
Ski kit was in garage, as un-viewed, and level indicator at 44.
I think I would prefer to have a record of my level increase and award in or at end of ride before saving my ride. At worst would like to see notification at very start of next ride. But not a third world problem.
Yup. I leveled up mid-race yesterday and was told I had some sunnies waiting for me after the race.
Didn’t help with my performance or motivation, both of which were seriously lacking. But the banner popped up, lol.
I think Daren meant that if you level up as a result of the streak bonus, so you level up after finishing the ride.
In this case you don’t get any banner.
Would be good to get it at the start of the next ride or as Daren said, to get the streak bonus added as soon as you qualify for it.
That’s not what I’m asking about. I’m asking about when you level up after a ride when your bonus streak XP drops (as that’s how I’m led to believe it works).
yeah, you’re correct. the first couple of times I levelled up was as a result of a streak bonus being added, i didn’t know what I had been awarded there is no acknowledgement other than you seeing the distance to next level showing the next level.
Gotcha, sorry. This conversation has more twists than an M. Night Shamalyan film festival.
68 miles to go from level 43 to 44.
I remember the complaints about that with the “Working From Home” badge not showing up after completing 14 days in a row. You had to start another workout for the badge to show.
I leveled up due to a streak bonus, and the banner showed while applying the bonus. But, there was no screenshot of that banner, like all the other auto screenshots for achievements.
Yep, I’m not at all sure why Zwift would not simply use a smooth continuous curve (e.g. exponential) picking off the levels and XP from the curve and allowing the levels to go to infinity…Appropriate values for curve parameters (e.g.differential XP for levels) can be determined from historical data and for example, satisfy those within 2SD of mean of XP earning rates…i.e. the “normals” among Zwift users. They seem to be approaching it as a discrete data problem instead of having the Level XPs approximate a continuous function and are somehow fixated that levels must “end” when in reality its modeling an activity where users improve with experience (hence XP or “experience points” earned continually) and don’t suddenly plateau as reflected by level “100.” All levels should be directly and smoothly linked by a function to XP, without an arbitrary terminus like level 50 or level 100.