Changes to Pace Partners [May 2022]

Why remove the Makuri pacers? I like to change the scenery when the option is avalalble.

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Bring back the Makuri Bots!!! #freemakuribots

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I think I’ve answered this question about three times :slight_smile:

This is a testing period. I want to determine the best routes, per partner in Watopia - these will be tested across 15-20 different routes on flat, rolling and hilly courses.

The removal from Makuri is not permanent and I wanted to focus on the most popular areas. Makuri PPs get around 2k unique riders each day, Watopia around 15k.

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Apparently every single one of the 2k riders on Makuri reads the forums.

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Nice I’ll try to jump in and try riding with them instead of Cadence to change things up. Nice way to brodge the gap between D and C hope we will have the same from C to B !

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Why have the Makuri Pace Partners been removed? Was a nice change from the flat route/watopia waistband C mix. Not sure why youd go backward on expanding to other worlds.

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We’ve added new ones into Watopia to give you the full range of pacing.

I’ll be changing the routes for all 7 weekly.

We currently have a maximum limit of 8.

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Yes, I loved Coco @ Flatland Loop :scream::cry::pray:t3:

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@shooj and @James_Zwift please ask ZHQ to reconsider the removal of the makuri pace partners.

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@Paul_Cooper_SZR it’s a temporary thing. When I say they are going to change each week, I don’t mean on a 3 course rotation, I mean on a 20 week rotation with a mix of flat, rolling and hilly routes across ALL 7 Pace Partners.

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For some reason I prefer them in Makuri.

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Fair enough - The numbers are around 20% of what they are in Watopia.

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That might have been why some preferred them in Makuri, smaller group?

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Almost certainly because people don’t realise they’re available off rotation (and all people without the new home screen couldn’t do so anyway).

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  • Pedal assist will now last 10 seconds (up from 5 seconds) and last up to 60 seconds if no power is detected.

Yay! I did a Pace Partner ride on rollers last week and had forgotten how sketchy it was to join them (I usually ride a direct-drive trainer now).

  • Additionally, the 4 Pace Partners found in Makuri will be taken offline and will remain offline for the foreseeable future.

BOOOOOOOOO! Why? That last rotation with Neokyo routes was damn good fun.

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Zwifters - We want more Pace Partners at different levels

Zwift - Ok there are 4 more on Makuri

Zwifters - What is the point… we want slower PP

Zwift - Ok we will test slower PP on watopia so everyone can try them

Zwifters - We want pace partners on Makuri

You will never win @James_Zwift :rofl: :rofl:

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Everyone - My main goal here is to determine (with real data) the most popular routes in Watopia, per pace. This is going to take a period of time but will result in the most popular routes per partner being used in the longer term.

You have been screaming out for slower paced partners every since I joined in November. You now have them.

The move away from Makuri is not permanent.

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Thank you for your valuable input. People are asking for information and youre not helping.

Isnt that the whole point of a forum?

Anyway back to zwifting. First and last time on the forum.

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Don’t you think this is mostly due to the Makuri PP not being available on Makuri off days… unless you have the new UI? With only PC/Mac users having the new UI, that surely brings numbers down.

Not that I’m fighting for them to come back to Makuri or anything. Just an observation.

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I think your quote might be a bit out :slight_smile:

I think it is partly due to that, but not the whole reason. I think some of it was down to poor route selection (which I corrected 2 weeks ago which led to an increase of approx 20%) but I think that also the “flat” routes in Makuri aren’t that flat and the most popular PP routes are pan flat.

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