60 days rolling average
Didnât need to hold his nerve in B; heâs back in C already, winning more CE events (Herd Summer Racing League). I guess where thereâs a willâŚ
There seems to be a consistent theme that upgrading is bad.
Every time I have upgraded it I celebrated it and relished the challenge that it brought. Everything Iâve read on here (and not from one specific person) is that itâs a bad thing.
Embrace it and use it to push you.
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That is just crazy talk James, we are not here to get stronger and faster, it is all about the virtual trophy 
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thatâs just a phase. youâll grow out of it eventually
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Ok, but I was referring though to your prior reference to in fact being pushed to the back in the first 5 minutes and losing the pack. So in this instance 1-5 min power was somewhat key at least at the very beginning of the race?
If only we could work out how that came about and became the ânormâ for zwifting racing?
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Itâs not a rolling average in this system, unlike Zwiftpower. A single performance over the limit in the last 60 days will get you upgraded.
It might seem pedantic, but itâs quite a big difference compared to Zwiftpower.
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Yep get it. Iâm at my limit too. My comment wasnât directly aimed at you though, just the general consensus.
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Which is why there should be different category definitions available to organisers to help vary things, i.e. not the same fixed limits being used in 98% of races.
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Martin, in the short term you could try some of the split category race series which currently arenât using the CE system? These have a larger number of narrower cat ranges e.g. low-C, C, low-B, B etc.
Please read the OP.
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Look everyone, we get it. Being at the bottom of a category sucks. Being at the top of a category is good fun. Being near the top of a category with a massive sprint, even better.
The CE system is not designed to fix the problem of fixed/static categories. It is designed to stop sandbaggers (riders racing lower than their assigned category) and cruisers (riders deliberately managing their 20m power numbers to stay in a lower category than they are truly capable of).
Many of these comments, and the ones on the other thread, are blaming CE for the issue of fixed categories.
On the roadmap shared this week is the feature for race organisers to customise the boundaries. This means that those always at the top or always at the bottom wonât be limited to this consistent experience. Sometimes hammer, sometimes nail. (n.b. If you canât sprint, climb, or hold great power for a breakaway, realistically you will never be the hammer. Sorry. Thatâs bike racing).
Longer term hopefully there will also be a ranking system so in every race, whether you are in the upper or lower half of the field, you will have ranking points to fight for versus your piers.
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One way around it⌠try some of the Split Cat races⌠quite a few riders in your situationâŚ
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I just did my first race in the category above my ZP designated one, it brought a new challenge, rather than waiting to unleash a sprint for the win I now have to up the power at the right times during the race rather than the end, surely this is a good thing for personal development.
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That is one of the things people fail to see, if you get promoted in any sport you have to work harder, train in a different way, new tactics and none of this happens overnight, it all takes time, people do get there but it not a case of getting promoted and expecting to be challenging for a win on day one, unless you were in the wrong Category to start with.
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1000th reply 
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I could have limited it to about 5 by including an FAQ section.
Q: I have been put up a category but I should definitely be in a lower category. I really enjoy racing in the lower category but canât hold on in the higher one. CE must be broken.
A: NO.
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I would lock the thread now and quit while youâre ahead (I agree with you BTW) 
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