So, what exactly are zwift doing for community racing? You know, the people who pay their money month on month to keep the show running.
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In other words. Suck it up we ainât interest in your whining.
Zwift only care about the UCI and IOC and the onward march to an IPO
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No no no. They need to have completed 15 races on ZwiftPower to have enough data to validate performances. They only need to have cheated 3 times before you can report them. Because cheating once or twice is fine but three times is crossing the line.
Itâs almost as if the requirements to report someone were deliberately set so high as to discourage people from making any reports at all. Thereâs a phrase for that⌠what is it? Oh yeah, lip service.
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The trouble is they are making things hard for themselves. The inevitable consequence of inaction is vigilante behaviour. There are already huge strides being made within the community to self-police this, because Zwift arenât doing it (and Iâm not talking about lowly community races, even at the top level). That means Zwift will have no control.
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Oh I bet this is the same one I contacted the team about this week and they claimed they were oblivious to last weekâs WWT level numbers. I was assured several weeks back she wouldnât be in the âmajorâ events until everything was verified. I said to the team to at least get a photo of the trainer to confirm what it is âŚ. They said they had a screen shot from the internet to prove it 
(PS I hope you spotted the 6.6wkg for 12 minutes too)
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It is becoming ridiculous, really. Please stop answering whatever answer you have in the drawer of corporate soup. It is insulting that noone answers to the initial question. More than a 100 messages on the thread and you continue making fool of yourselves.
Who is able to inform us about the bug bounty program!!! @Chris_Snook @Eric ? Still silent? What kind of trust are you expecting from the community when you are not able even to communicate on an undelivered promise?
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Luciano â the bounty program that I had committed earlier this year was right before a number of internal changes at Zwift. At this time, a bounty program is not our highest priority given all that we want to do for the community. Itâs not to say we wonât implement one like many of the largest Internet companies but until itâs prioritised and properly resourced, we canât commit to the program or a timeline. I know this is not what you want to hear but this is where we are right now. Youâve put a lot of energy into this and I appreciate your passion. Happy holidays.
@Eric I take note of your absolute lack of accountability. At least now it is visible that your word means close to nothing.
Not only you are not delivering up to your promise, one you made to me privately and publicly to the community you pretend to care about, but additionally you confirm that this is not a priority. Close to ten months after ⌠All the changes you refer to did not impact the person committing to the bug bounty program: you.
The breach of trust is obvious, and after waiting for a long time in silence on the topic trusting your word, I feel manipulated, but also free as I am no longer binded to any commitment to you.
I will think carefully on how to move forward and the possiblity to disclose publicly and progressively all the information I have been exposed to and consolidating over the past months.
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Open season on community exposure.
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I would say fear of rampant community exposure is why Zwift Power is not required for racing.
We donât want to hurt peopleâs feelings now.
If you have to ask if something is fair or ok, it isnât.
If you donât want everyone to see your data, stop doing what you are doing.
Fast is fun, Fair is boring.
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I donât want to add to the heat level of this discussion, since there is plenty of that already, but your decision would be more understandable if you had communicated it much earlier. I assume the decision didnât just happen this week. Cut once and cut deep. As soon as you decide to cut staff and projects, go ahead and share all the bad news at once. Not everyone will be satisfied, but at least it doesnât look like hiding bad news and dispatching PR people to obfuscate whatâs going on or present reasons why itâs not important. There is no reason why people would care less about cheating in Zwift than they would about cheating in an amateur criterium, so the level of disappointment is predictable.
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Exactly. The fact it comes so late and after dozens of reminders shows the manipulation in my opinion. Just hoping we would forget. And quite frankly, they almost managed. Thank God Eddy Hoole has revived my passion.
Mery Xmas all. Now we know it is only a game!
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Thanks Paul for your post. I agree we should have communicated this much earlier. This is on me. As for not caring about cheating or sandbagging, thatâs simply not true. We have rolled out categorised events including equipment selection, and given those tools to event promoters. We are coming up with better ways of categorising riders than just based on threshold performance, which will improve competition. And for all the elite events we host, we invest heavily into performance analysis and have on many occasions disqualified riders. There is no other platform that offers this level of scrutiny. Whatâs really being discussed here is about rolling out a bounty program, which at this time, we donât have the appropriates resources to implement and support. In hindsight, I made the mistake of committing to a program that required more resources than I initially believed and it also happened to come at a bad time. It doesnât mean we wonât have one one day but this is generally offered only by the biggest tech companies, of which, we are not.
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Hey @Eric cheers for engaging. Iâm sure you fully understand the frustration of end users who have been promised an action and then that action rescinded on Xmas eve almost to bury the newsâŚ
Are you fully behind the article that @Chris_Snook undertook where he tried to associate Luciano highlighting an exploit that zwift had been aware of for a number of months to an increase in cheating with that being Lucianos fault/responsibility?
Recently, we have seen a comms from @xflintx where he says they were unaware of an issue which had been called out multiple times over the last 10months⌠(thread: Category Enforcement Update - Weight Changes [December 2022])
Have you just created a culture in zwift to ignore what is being said and not to act on it?
Merry Xmas btwâŚ
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years. i think i remarked at the time that it was so old that i assumed it had just been patched out already and forgotten about
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How can you pretend that you are controlling elite races when your own head of comms and PR has recognized publicly last week that you donât even check the weigh-in videos required at elite level because of the lack of resources (they are too many to check)?
You just need to setup a Mail Account like bugreport@zwift.com and one person to read the mails and write adequate memos to the programmers.
Or do you fear a huge overwhelming flood of emails and bugreports because you âfeelâ that there is a huge amount of bugs in your software?
Sounds like it. 
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What do you believe Andre Greipel thought of after this race?
'Wow, the guy in first place is well trained with 5.3w/kg and 125 HR average, i should exercise more!
Zwift is really great for racing!"
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@Cris_To All in all the guy arriving first is not that bad!
This screenshot is a collector. The one with 86HR average is, in my opinion, even more a superhero.
Plus you have the classic one that does not even bother to have a HR monitor.
The only one who seems fair there is Greipel.
I guess that in this race even Scotty the Squirrel had a miscalibrated assioma !