Yes. Starts and finishes in Downtown Watopia
The issue with very long routes is the experience of an average person (who is more likely to only have an hour or hour and a half to ride) will vary greatly depending from where in the route the pace partner is when they start their ride.
Four Horsemen for instance… if you have an hour or an hour and a half to ride and at the time you can start your ride the pace partner is close to the bottom of the alpe, you’ll get a great climb, and then a long descent. If you start an hour later you’ll start on a long descent and the ride will be over long before the pacer hits the first big climb (Epic KOM). So while it was a “Mountainous” route, depending when you join you might or might not see a mountain climb at all. Folks who ride for 4 hours+ at a time will get a good route, but from what I see on my pacer routes the numbers sticking around for that length of time are small.
Also mega pretzel is.
Easier just to put part of epic KOM and ADZ into a loop. Not excessively long and you get two wonderful hills for the price of one route.
I have been with robopacers this entire week, most folks are there for 3-4 hours doing long rides. These people are there each day. This week it meant stupid numbers of laps (30+) on Volcano circuit which is very, very boring.
I don’t see why one lot of robopacers can’t do short flat routes and the other batch does longer, mountainous routes.
That’s the entire idea of having more robopacers. Except now they are both on relatively flat routes.
If Zwift’s data shows most folks riding pace partners are going for 3-4 hours then they should absolutely put much bigger rides in. I don’t think that’s what their data will show.
Volcano Circuit in general is such a quick lap that it can get annoying for anyone going over an hour I would think, so that is a particularly unlucky route to do a long ride on for sure.
I would be shocked if any pace partner had a majority doing 3-4 hours. That sounds impossible.
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Go look at Constance - afternoons in my time zone. Every day, same people all doing at least 3 hours. And they are real people, not bots.
Feel free to join and see for yourself. When I join a lot of them are already through 120km and going to 160 or 200km.
But this is getting away from the original topic, and that was the boring selection of robopacer routes.
Why do both batches of robopacers have to be in mostly flat courses with no climbs or only very minimal ones? Wasn’t the idea of duplicating them that one would have a hilly course and the other flat?
As it is now, none of them go through titans grove, I don’t remember seeing any of them going up the volcano KOM recently and none of them go up the full epic KOM or radio tower climb these days.
The Grade is also a loop. I was on an event today that was doing 17 laps of it (134km and over 5100m elevation). It’s not ADZ or Ventop but it is mostly a steady gradient.
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Innsbruck would be the best option, uphill and down then around the town and then repeat it.
Or, jyst up and down n repeat the loop.
The bots need to be put into rotation on some of the new New York routes
Double parked is a really nice loop - 40k, mostly flat, few lumps.
Would be popular
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Would it? We’ve had weeks of group rides, races and badge hunts for XP in NYC the last few weeks.
I quite like the new routes, but I’m pretty much New Yorked out by now. 
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Yeah, Lutscher route would be perfect, it starts in Innsbruck but then does continuous loops of the mountain.
I put together a list of routes I’d like to have RPs on. Just for my own entertainment.
Big Foot Hills
Bigger Loop
Coastal Crown Loop
Muir and the Mountain
Navig8
Sand and Sequoias
Knights of the Roundabout
Chain Chomper
Countryside Tour
Two Village Loop
The Muckle Yin
Royal Pump Room 8
2018 World’s Short Lap (Innsbruck)
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How about Jungle Circuit to get some use out of gravel frames?
Oh and Grand Central would be great.
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