If under seeded racers get fixed (moved up even higher) that could be just fine even with an increased score.
Plus, it could be the reason for them to reconsider the ranges in Jan is that they try to populate better the range above 650. If this is the case, most riders get an increase.
One thing I would like to happen, regardless of how frustrated I might be at the v2 tweak, is for all future signups that use Racing Score beyond approx 1600 GMT today to be wiped clean so racers have to sign up to the pen representing their new score.
@Eric-Schlange-ZI can you please remove all current signups for Tiny Races signups on Decemeber 7th?
As things stand when I looked a few minutes ago, there were at least three racers in pen E with a score above 260 (i’m sure it’s similar in other pens too).
make it transparent so we know what is actually going on! at present it is nothing more than a “random number generator”. I’m still trying to figure out why the same people that beat me every week in races have a lower ZRS than myself and why theirs goes up less for a win than my 10th place. Also add ZRS before and after to events and add the tab to zwift power
I appear to have gotten a 27 point jump.
Honestly, I’m kind of “meh” about that. The new increase took me back to about where I was in early November when it had been fairly stable for 3-4 weeks and then took a nose dive as I got beaten by a number of riders who seemed to have artificially low ZRS scores as they were just coming back inside (I’m guessing, little to no race history since the previous winter).
If those people have now been accurately placed and that caused my position to go back to where it was, that seems about right. Not sure if losing the 30s power did anything to mine or not.
Since my score had been relatively stable (moving only 2-3 points in either direction over multiple races in 3-4 weeks before that), I figured it was about as accurate as it was going to get (until I get in better shape), so getting back to that is nice.
We’ll see how long I stay there, which is the real test now that everyone else has moved as well.
83 points jump here.
But this is of course not my new seed score, since they didnt reset but recalcluated the results.
Would have to drop to floor again to see my current seed score.
Still stupid we cant see our seed score somewhere.
When looking at my past results it shows my floor score at 557 now. Which was 473.
Meaning my seed score is 696. That puts me in Cat 1 …
Hope they havened finished this recalculating cause that makes not much sense as a CE cat C rider and being dropped hard in ZRS Cat 3 races with anything with a hill.
I was thinking the same. Have reached out to Zwift to see if it’s possible. (Pity the upcoming pen enforcement measures aren’t in place yet, as that would have done the job!)
Also if everybody is getting pushed up to fill in the empty gap at the top, the ranges should be adjusted too. But that is hard to figure out unless Zwift would share some details once the processing is over.
In the first iteration my seed score was 364, and through a few months of racing it moved up to 384 going up a few points at a time.
I see today it moved from 384->452 so that is +64. I currently have no 30s power since I have an issue with one of my knees since January that has been stopping me from being able to really throw down, so I ‘think’ I was underseeded in the old algo as a result, so for me the score going up makes sense when removing 30s power.
Though I guess it will be hard to tell until all scores update and you can see who you’re actually put in a pen with.
i am going to Race tonight, Full send and with mind set to win it. @SeattleSauve i will let you all know how i do now, i hope not to get drop.
Anyone remember what Eric Min’s score was before today? It’s 508 right now, so pen C, same as @Petr_Sliva who is showing as 388. 
I just checked a friend of mine who has never raced but has solid power. They were at about 590 before this change, and today at 713. Myself (now at 452) and them are both in the same CE Category (B), so that’s just one data point where someone in CE cat B could be seeded above 700 without any races.
Edit: I guess I find it interesting that in CE we would be in the same pen, but in ZRS I would be C and they would be A, so that’s a pretty big difference. Honestly I wouldn’t want to compete against them since their base power is way higher than mine, so it is not crazy, just interesting it’s the difference between same cat, and two cat difference.
This is not true. As a fellow big man, I am sure you have noticed that raw power instead of W/KG is weighted much higher in the ZRS than it was in CE. You will still see CE A & B riders in lower pens since they do not have the raw power. Whatever curve or line they used to set the scores is going to catch the middle weight riders (75kg?) and the heavy and light will be outliers.
Weird. When looking through my older race results I see different floor scores.
How can we know which one it is ?
Why cant our seed score just be public to us ?
My score has just dropped to 179
My score dropped as well to 306 then I had a race and its at 312, it was at 311 yesterday.
Mine hasn’t changed
I miss the perspective of other phenotypes here.
From my point of view there isnt such thing as overseeding of heavy riders, it makes perfect sense to me.
I am a lightweight rider boucing between A and B.
But whenever I do E races (mass start) I’ll always get my ass kicked by heavy C riders at the beginning of the race, often even leading to them being able to hang on longer than me. (Or same for heavy riders with up to 0.6 lower 20m wkg when racing in my own pen)
Their absolute power is just so much more, making it impossible to stay in front of them.
These riders have just always been underseeded in the A-D past. By taking in absolute power into account now, this is underseeding is finally adressed.
To me it also did made sense that 30s was taking into the equation. As it has also happened to me that in point races my long term power was nullified because of sprints, which got me dropped.
Given the sprinters the ability to defeat light riders, without being penalised in the old cats.
But I do understand the downfall of this, if given too much weight.
Then maybe they could take best 30sec after like 1000kj ? If that is available. That might be a better reflection of one’s true ability.
Isn’t the down ward arrow with a line under it indicate that the indicated score is the seed score (or is that the 85% of seed)?
Still, in all my races, the score seems to indicate I am at the lowest they will let it go yet I beat 1/2 the field every time.
ZRS of 210 vs 230 makes no difference.
I’m not faster and I’m racing the same people.
As far as I know that is the floor score reached.
And I have the same, floor score in all my races and in the last race I suddenly go up 83 points …
You might find racers who were at the top of default pen D have now been given a score above 350 and so are now in pen C.