My thinking is that it was opposite way around.
Average 769 is stronger field so more points than average race strength of 701.
I’m seeing higher points being awarded in 520-690 & 690-1000 pens than in the 0-180 pen.
Maybe it is extremely easy for beginners to understand. Winner goes up. Loser goes down.
But once you understand any sort of nuance it becomes downright impossible.
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And here comes the question we all knew was coming. How do you know ? Do you have more info than the rest of us ?
not at all. i just pay closer attention to the stuff staff say
But if that was the case should there not be a few riders already at 1000 ?
If we look at the GC from the Community Racing Festival, the leader AR MM has won 7 out of his 13 races and has finished top 8 in all other races except Downtown Dolphine where he came 13th but that was out of 23, so still a raise in points and he is at ZRS 904 now.
I got 13 points for a win in 3rd cat last week, so if he gets even more points he should have reached 1000 by now doesnt he ?
Edit :
and certainly Mboto should have been higher than 871 with 13 podiums in 13 races.
and if you scroll a bit through the ranking you see more.
Werme with 9 podiums out of 12 races with ZRS 815
Seaton with 12 podiums out of 12 races with ZRS 906
My best guess is that they’ve got a formula that looks at your current score, the average score of the field, and your finish position relative to the size of the field. From those it works out if you get an increase or decrease in your score, and how much that change should be.
If you’ve got a high score in a field with lower average score you get a smaller increase for winning.
Could be completely wrong, but it lines up well enough with the FAQ and matches what I’ve seen.
Good point which I will try and look at more carefully later.
But first observation is that you are clearly looking at the Community Racing GC and licking out A+ & A racers with lots of podium finishes.
Have you looked closely at how many ZP finishers there are in these races. I don’t wish to disparage these quality racers but sometimes there are less than three ZP finishers.
Have you checked the ZCA race results for total finishers. At a very first quick glance of just 3-4 races it looks like there are often only 4-6 finishers. I wonder whether podium bonuses are being awarded when there are a small number of total finishers?
There is a definite disparity between top of race scoring & finishing last in races. coming last in some instances is allowing a 20-30 point drop, whilst some first places only pick up 12-15 points… With 20 seemingly the top end of the range for winning.
But, there are also instances of finishing last showing less than 10 point reduction. This is in prime time Community race series events so fairly strong fields, certainly now weak and well attended.
I dont think the score change formula is as linear as is being made out.
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I’ve not looked, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Racing Score is borrowing bits of the zwiftpower rank score formula. Which was something like race strength being taken from the five highest ranked finishers in a field with less than ten finishers, or the rank of the top ten finishers when more than ten fiished.
Did the community seaside race on Tuesday in the 350-520 cat and had 117 starters with possibly close to half of those B cat riders, there were a few complaints about being dropped etc
Came 14th and gained 5 points, top 3 were B cat riders and then a mix of B and C in the top 15
I raced on Mondays community race on Seaside Sprint, finished in a much reduced front bunch - I was 3.0wkg & winner was 4.5wkg for 20mins (& 8wkg for 1 min.)
It is possible to hold the wheels with the disparity in power, competing for the sprint wasnt on the cards for me as I was gassed but I came in with the front group and felt I did well enough with that, as it was a tough race.
This was 350-520 grouping.
Bit surprised my final score ended up rising a bit from provisional from yesterday’s 1710, 259 went to 264.
Five DNFs, but it looks like someone joined the race pen and set off approx an hour after the race began to come last, rather than me! 
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At least your score changed. I was just curious if the system actually works. So I did a race that put me in the 520 and below and took the top spot. Bumped my racing score to 534. That moved me up to the next range, 520-690. Then I entered the next race and lost sports on purpose. So I get the down arrow, nope still 534. So I entered 3 more races after that and did the same thing. No move in race score at all….
Did you set a new base/seed score in the win? Improved CP30/600?
If your new seed base was 534 you wouldnt be able to drop any lower.
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Nope, the last 3 races were just hanging with the pack. I would ease up in the last mile or so, so everyone would jump in front of me…
Im referring to the race where you won & improved your score? Did you set a new seed score in that win with an improvement to either CP30 or 600?
Though, there looks to be a caching issue with scoring by the looks of it, as the displayed number isnt necessarily correct - I had an issue with the client seemed to cache my base score even though companion app showed it had increased.
Yes exactly that. He set PBs at both 30s and 10m and received up arrow with line underneath at 534.
I think this may also have been first ZRS race but I’m not 100% sure.
Races since have shown down arrow with line underneath and score of 534.
It is not doing this.
I’ve raced with 3x 900 and 5-10x 820+ and scores weren’t going up much for high placed 700 range finishers
That’s actually great if organizers are using different scores for pens but as Matt pointed out the current score ranges are defacto cats.
I have seen thoughts about this a few times in here so I thought, while it was quiet at work, to scroll through my Companion App and check the races in the activities from people I follow.
The thoughts I had all these times look like it is pretty accurate. Scrolled through 50 races and counted the amount of people gaining points and the people losing points.
Overal if we look at the riders finishing a race 63% goes up in points and 37% goes down.
Will post a screenshot below if anyone wants to see the numbers.
