Wahoo trainers with Virtual Shifting Issue: "Free Watts" | October 2024

Sometimes supertuck also randomly doesn’t work. Watts zero, cadence zero, all alone, high speed, steep grade (eg, Radio Tower descent) and nothing happens. Then a minute later on some other bit of road it works.

Are the ghost watts additive through the power range, or only show up under some low floor (eg. 20 watts)? In example given, slogging up a hill are the reported watts always 11 watts higher than really exerted?

Certainly were when I got them. Not exactly, but pretty close to a constant offset across the duration range when I dual-recorded after I figured out that I was seeing the bug - I didn’t think I was as at that point it was 100% being attributed to virtual shifting, which I had never used.

I immediately dropped off the good climbing I was doing when I updated firmware and did a factory spin-down.

(I found it in ZRL race 8 October ‘24 and fixed it sometime over the next week or so, as I remember, if someone is looking at my ZwiftPower)

Hi and thank you all for your replies.

The problem isn’t a few constant extra watts during the ride, which would be a helpful boost as some of you have mentioned.

The issue with my Wahoo Core (and my friends’ trainers) is this: during any race, if you’re riding at a normal pace and stop pedaling, the RPMs and watts quickly go to zero, so that watt gain is not constant.

However, if you put in a hard effort during the race (400-500w, for example on a climb or sprint) and then stop pedaling, the trainer takes about 20 seconds for the watts and RPMs to drop to zero. (It’s strange that a hard effort at the start of a race doesn’t have the same effect—maybe it’s a temperature issue?) What happens with the watts during those 20 seconds? They oscillate between 0 and 20-30w, which is why you can’t do a supertuck during that time.

The firmware is updated, manual respin and a factory reset.

Thanks.

I think you’re seeing expected behavior, and the only way it’s going to drop to zero faster is with “Race Mode”-enabled trainers (ie. Kickr v5 with network cable connection or Wifi-connected v6 & others)

Its not expected behaviour - i don’t have this issue at all with my kickr core. Watts and rpm drop to zero quickly. I’d suggest people update firmware, do a factory reset and then contact wahoo support if they’re getting 20 seconds of free watts!

The problem is Autocalibration that happens during coasting after harder efforts.
When you are doing the calibration at normal pace you are at the correct flywheel speed.

Do you have Free Watts everytime after this harder efforts until you do the next Spindown or Factory Reset?

Hi.

Finally, Wahoo replaced the trainer and the new one works fine; It lasts around 2 seconds to 0 w and rpm after stop pedaling. Besides I lost around 20-30 w in a course, so It seems that I had those 20 w as “Ghost watts” in the previous trainer.

Thanks.

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