I never even knew this until recently but rider height is a huge factor.
I pretty much ride daily with Constance and i’ll usually finish a 3 hour ride at about 240w.
I’m 75kg and 180cm tall.
Just as an experiment i put my height to 140cm yesterday and did 3 hours with Constance on Sacre Blu which is absolutely pan flat.
I averaged 203w - about 40w difference just because i changed my height by 40cm
It was actually pretty wild how much easier it felt with Constance - basically felt like Coco
I used to see some folks there sitting in with the group at relatively low w/kg compared to what I used to have to do, they’d easily just cruise back to the group even when dropped by a few seconds.
Me at 173cm (and much lighter than you, but with okay power) I’d have really punch the power quickly to do the same. Interesting.
I was watching a rider on ADZ this afternoon doing 5.3w/kg at 201 watts = 38kg. Not a young kid either.
The same rider was then able to coast downhill at 70km/h on the descent!
I’m 21kg more than that and I’m only doing 68-70km/h on the downhill.
No, in just your cat alone there were 25 more finishers than showing in Zwiftpower. Across all cats, there were 184 finishers according to Zwift, but according to Zwiftpower only 117 finishers, plus 22 DQs for HR (139 total).
ht tps://www.zwift.com/uk/events/view/5429201
What’s kinda funny is that the Zwift (not ZP) result is good enough to use to determine ZRS score changes even for the DQ’d racers.
Cannot be HR alone ? Average HR showing for those with a DQ ? Possibly some other anomalies in there. Realistically there should be a limit on how much your racing score improves in a single race, you should have joined a higher race category.
But aren’t the Zwift results the ‘correct’ results and should be used to calculate ZRS.
The ZwiftPower results are wrong both because they don’t include everyone but mainly because they have disqualified riders when they should not have done so.
People are getting a DQ for good reason.
You could get unlucky and have your HR monitor battery die on you right at the start but that’s still your problem really, change it before it fails at regular intervals.
People with sudden massive jumps in their racing score should also get booted out of the category they decided to race in.
Not in this race.
Sure they are, Zwiftpower has a load of pre-sets that if you go outside you get booted.
They are hardly going to go in an check each entrant, its fully automated. I have yet to be booted out once, even with the big jump in my racing score up 64 that now puts me out of the category I was in when I signed up.
As already mentioned, Zwiftpower could do with way more information as why you got booted out, they should still have your race result in a separate table and the specific reason why so you can correct the problem if you cannot figure it out for yourself. You could even be in the same table with your result greyed out in the same order as the actual race finish but the placings down the table stay exactly the same as they are now.
Zwift is way too slack as it is, people are actively gaming the system lets not slide even further.
ZwiftPower already has those codes displayed, why don’t you check out the Unfiltered results tab of the race you won and let us know why the 22 racers got booted out of their race results. Are you able to find anything in the Zwift sign up/entry rules which confirm their disqualification was valid.
That’s the conundrum. It’s a Zwiftpower rule, not a Zwift rule. I haven’t checked, but are the overall official Games leaderboards only taking names from Zwiftpower, or from Zwift? If from Zwift, then Zwiftpower is even more removed and irrelevant from being the de facto source of truth.
Well I guess the obvious solution is to just synchronise the results in the app to the ones in Zwiftpower and problem solved, one source of the truth because while there are two, people are going to argue and choose the one that best suits them. I’m always going to vote for Zwiftpower, just make everyone in Zwift automatically registered for Zwiftpower, there goes half the problem to start with.
Sadly the thing you can expect to happen is ZwiftPower is relegated to the toilet
Probably not at that point I would totally give up racing and so would a load of other people leading to the results being a total joke with just the cheats fighting for a podium finish.
Wouldn’t surprise me however, the Concept 2 indoor rowing distance challenges were a total joke as well so I just quit doing them. The problem for them was far easier to fix than cycling, yet they wouldn’t do it despite them creating a full unique16 digit verification code for each row way back in 2003.
Just imagine having a web page that allowed you to go in and manually type what you think you did in terms of a row that day, yeah I’m sure those people doing 100km a day for 30 days straight without a break was real.
This is getting off topic I think.
But it would be sad if that happened. If it were up to me I’d be having more transparency so people cannot hide weight and height changes, they must actually ride to gain distance among other changes.
I know that wouldn’t please some users however.
Probably already known, and not surprising, that indeed the GC results at below, do include those DQ’d by Zwiftpower. I found the winner of Carl’s race on it about 160 positions ahead on the leaderboard.
ht tp://www.zwift.com/racing/leagues/zwiftgames2026
Yes pretty much the only thing you need to do to avoid DQ is not look at ZwiftPower, look at results in the Companion app and revel in your glory
Well fortunately it doesn’t work like that and neither does the Olympic games. The ZCA is just the finishing race order and not the final result. The difference is that Zwifpower does it while I’m still recovering from the race and Olympic medals get awarded decade’s later like the one where a woman go shot in a convenience store robbery. She won a medal and the autopsy revealed she was a man.
Speed Tests: How Rider Height Affects Speed In Zwift zwift insider .com/speed-tests-height/ Quote - “how many watts each centimeter of added height costs.
For example, we can see that 163cm at 150W delivers the same time as 173cm at ~160W. So we know that a rider will need to hold ~10W higher to match a rider 10cm shorter. Or looking at it another way, every centimeter costs 1 watt.
At higher wattages this cost is even higher, with a 10cm jump costing closer to ~20W in the 450W range.”
Except it’s precisely working like this. Visit the link I posted above for the ‘official’ standings which aren’t in Zwiftpower.
So to follow your analogy, how does it feel for the olympic medalist to get a gold medal in a podium ceremony vs getting one in the mail a decade later? A ZwiftPower win when you didn’t cross the line first is like a medal sent in the mail. I wouldn’t call it bad, but it’s simply not the same. Plus there’s the problem of the rider who got DQ not even knowing that they were DQ. They may still be enjoying the happy glow of victory and that may remain regardless of what happens on ZwiftPower because they don’t necessarily know that they got DQ.