Should slower riders be able to flag faster riders

My guess is that it “can be turned on but isn’t”.

There is a rider who’s been going around at 1040w for 7hrs and isn’t flagged. They did it in and out of events. Strava rides have all been flagged now…

Tokugawa is mostly DQ’d on Zpower but is in results on Zwift website. They have sat at 600w for 10minutes before.

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Ffs

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I triggered that once, years ago.
There was a bug with the Innsbruck full lap leaderboard, and I recorded a time on that while only riding the shorter Innsbruckring route. So my time was obviously impossible. On crossing the lap banner that warning popped up.
So I wonder if you have to go through a segment to trigger the warning. And maybe only the older segments are set up for it, or only the longer ones will trigger it as real people can hold high power for the length of the short ones.

The people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics, the sceptics; I feel sorry for you. You need to believe in these riders. I’m sorry you can’t dream big and I’m sorry you don’t believe in miracles.

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I own this bike its a great bike… can be bought new from £599… however currently trying to find out from manufacturer/importer how they guage watts output as there has been a challenge from the community that the readings are inaccurate for power.
The implications are that the bike is hitting top 1% for times on Zwift along with 50% of route/races top three finishes… zFTP currently 421W so u can see why the results are questionable… I’m fit but aint no podcar

It has nothing to do with believe or not believe… Do you believe I can run 100 m in 9.80 sec, or do you require proof?

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Do you own or have access to a real bike, doesn’t need to be super fancy, it just needs to be OK and do you have a 5min to 60min popular hill nearby? If so ride it fast, you should be able to get into the strava segment top 20 or top 10 even easily

Neah I definitely believe you

I’ve flagged and reported runners that put in equally as impossible efforts but still they are active. I’m not sure what the criteria is for Zwift to sanction them.

I’m curious now… how does one of these indoor trainers connect to Zwift anyway. I see that Horizon is on Zwift’s list, but for all of these, Zwift says you have to connect a power meter to use them. So is the OP’s issue not his bike, but whatever he is using as a powermeter?

Nowhere does the Dunning-Kruger effect thrive more than in indoor cycling. Someone claiming an FTP of 421W while MvdP’s is estimated at 420W? Absolutely hilarious—I can’t stop laughing. Like I always say, if Pogi, MvdP, or WVA joined Zwift, they’d all be Cat D overnight. LOL.

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No most of those bikes transmit a power number, but don’t have a way to properly measure power. The confusing information you are reading is essentially saying that if you have a spin bike that does not transmit a power number then you would have to add a power meter. But if you have a bike that offers “pretend power” that is considered compatible out of the box. And it’s OK for just cruising around but useless for racing or understanding your power.

I think that’s turned off now because he’s done volcano and hilly route.

There was a great community live streamed race on Richmond with 30+ cones once.

MvDP has raced zwift elite a few times. He’s never won but he’s competitive. They are all verified of course….

I thought that might be the case. I don’t know exactly what model he has, but couldn’t find anything in that company’s specs that say anything about having functionality of transmitting a power number and therefore would be considered a power meter by the Zwift app?

You, I, and others here can say and believe that this type of trainer bike is useless, but the fact remains (which is really the core problem), that Zwift has it written down in black and white that his bike is acceptable to use in Zwift. So any proposed anti-cheat detection or prevention systems are never going to happen, because these would 100% go against what Zwift otherwise has written.

you understand sarcasm, don’t you? :slight_smile:

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Iirc MvdP’s ftp is 485W (he’s 184cm). But really you need to look up pros ftp to know how realistic yours is. Zwift give OP that 421W without flagging it, like it should have happened.

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Ed Laverack (one of current top uk hill climbers, former winner) can do ~450W for 5mins outside, these days weighing somewhere in the 60-65Kg ballpark iirc.

Wiggo won the tour and was riding 441w for a 30ISH minute TT.

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