No, you don’t
You are inadvertently cheating.
No, you don’t
You are inadvertently cheating.
The problem is that you are putting out the FTP levels of 20 year old neo-pro riders who have been racing since they were young kids and in have been in state/national level track racing teams. And you are apparently over 50yo with 5 months cycling history?
You’ll forgive the people before if they doubt you.
The best way to change that is to find an accurate smart trainer and do an FTP test on that, or do one at any cycling training place that has reliable accurate power meters with which to test power. I’m sure everyone so far will gladly admit their errors if you can back up the 420w FTP using a Wahoo Kickr Bike or a Tacx Neo 2T for instance.
I suspect this is the last we will hear of it.
I am sure the most people using spin bikes have no idea about pro’s.
Cheating implies intent. He’s not cheating, his trainer is deceiving him…
I kind of agree, but if multiple people complain about your performance level and your response is to dig in & post on here rather than take a step back and check. There is probably some intent post those actions.
Plus, going forward post this thread, they will be very aware all is not what it seems
Yes they should be able to. Only for someone at Zwift to look into that and decide if it is worth actions or not.
There should not be autobans happening from this since almost every game in the past have proved that players can not handle the power they get and will abuse it.
I don’t think it implies intent, but more importantly I really want people to be able to come to the forum and ask questions that result in getting the advice they need, without being roasted for it since that would deter them from asking the questions. If an intentional cheater wants to come to the forum and complain about how they get nastygrams about their preposterous power, I can live with that and just tell them how to fix it.
There is nothing in the OP about wanting advice tbf…
Yep true but it’s a situation where they propose something and the best answer IMO is “no, but here is the information you need”. I expect that a lot of spin bike riders have no idea that their power is absurdly wrong and they need to bin the bike.
Zwift needs to do this. They already should be able but it seems the uh oh flier speed algorithm failed in this instance
AGAIN
I’m just re posting this advice to help OP and anyone else.
Just DUAL RECORD and allow people to review the data.
If the data supports the effort, then end of argument and discussion.
If the data does not support the claim, then you have the info needed to take the next steps toward legitimate efforts.
But for most people on these spin bikes it’s probably not super likely they have a second power meter right?
In the OP’s defence, it isn’t unreasonable to think that something that tells you the power you are outputting is correct.
If a car says i’m doing 30mph i don’t assume that it is wildly wrong until i drive along side two other cars all saying the same speed.
people not too into cycling/indoor cycling probably have no idea how hard power is to get right and just take what is displayed at face value.
and if you asked someone on the street what a reasonable power output for a cyclist is they’d likely have no idea.
Just dual record……
Bare with me for a second
My mother bought a spin bike who is able to transmit power for €1000. She believed she heavily invested in a proper setup.
She is doing 300 watt untrained, so it is fair to say that the bike is not accurate enough.
But she is definitely not investing another 700 euro in extra power pedals just to please some other people on the other side of the internet.
It is Zwift in the first place who should have looked after to not have such bikes be displayed as Zwift ready. (With the official Zwift logo)
How come in these threads nobody just posts a link to Zwift’s racing rules?
If he continues winning races with his deceiving trainer and knowing about it…it is cheating.
Edit:
He “won” a “EVO CC” race today…
A 40 minute race and he was 3 minutes in front of the second.
Don’t you ask yourself , @Terry_Jones3 , if this can be right?
Even if the OP were to get a proper power meter to compare, they would probably not believe it, because it was reading lower than they have been conditioned to believe.
There was a long thread here a few months ago about just that.
The old saying “Never go to sea with two chronometers. Take one or three.” applies.
If you have 2 power meters that are wildly different, which one do you believe?
Human behavior would want to believe the one that reads higher.
But it’s hard to get 3 power meters to record your data, especially if you are not that invested in cycling.
It should be easy to verify for OP. He should cycle to any popular (>10000 ) 5min+ local climb. Even on the crappiest of bikes he should be able to set a top 20-30 easily
And what if they tell the same number but are both wrong ?