Rider weight as part of Rider name info

How about putting up the riders weight in their dialogue box ?

Plenty of room to do it, I just added mine as an extension of my surname so it now comes up anyway.

I guess some people like to add their age in there as well but I just changed my hair colour to grey to its pretty obvious to others if your a rider heading for 60.

I wouldn’t want it to be mandatory but I’d prefer to see more options for self-expression in the rider profile for people who want that.

Fine make it a user option to show it but make the default option to have it shown. You would have to question anyone that then changes that default option to NOT to show it right ? There is only one reason you are not willing to show your rider weight.

Not everyone races, why should they show their weight? It can still be totally false too, it really doesn’t solve anything. We just have to accept that some people will falsely enter their weight, but hopefully most people are honest.

Watts/Wkg=weight no matter if people wants to display their weight or not :blush:

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Yeah. Why do folk do that? Is this a question of having your excuses in early?

This was a thing in the old times. Including height. So you could see who was making themselves 130cm height to get aero benefits.

Maybe you might have to accept it, but a lot of the other folk I ride with do not want to accept it and will not. The bike upgrades hacking got stopped (despite all the talk that it wouldn’t), and so should this IMO.

It’s certainly possible using algorithms in the background to catch out this because these false weights almost always end up with impossible performances in one way or another. The rider with the Constance group sitting on effortless 5.0w/kg with 130bpm at Zone 2, because he is ~45kg weight in Zwift, while IRL more than that.

Or the 36min ADZ (from a racer with the verified tick) at ~215w average power for the lap (according to his Strava). To do that he’d need to be impossibly light.

Or the light weight folks who have amazing ability to fly downhill in Zwift at 100km/h, because they changed their weight to something crazy for the downhill.

I’ was called out for weight doping too (someone did some maths), but enough people know me from riding real bikes outside that I’m not.

Baloney. I’m all for letting people express themselves but not going to draw any conclusions about people who don’t want to. In any case I can predict pretty confidently that this proposal is going nowhere so I will skip the rest of the arguments.

yeah for privacy, i dont want random people in the world knowing my weight so that must mean i use a false weight eh

sure there are edge cases like you describe that can easily be caught, but what about the guy who just shaves off a few kgs here and there, you can’t stop that from happening, you just have to hope people are honest. Multiple studies show that the majority of people lie when asked to self report weight by around 5 lbs.

Is that a reason to let the cheating go unstopped however?

The “edge” cases are hardly edge cases, I see them daily. And they mess up the group speeds, the robopacer ends up surging way faster in the draft, the pack splits up by 3-5 seconds.

It’s fun for some, but also a lot of people don’t like that.

The easily dealt with edge cases also have nothing done about them. Flagging multiple times achieves nothing. You have to jump up and down via multiple channels and then maybe something happens.

what are you suggesting, that everyone somehow verify their weight on Zwift? This has been a problem since the beginning of Zwift, sure catch and kill the super low weight cheaters or those who constantly alter their weight by large amounts. History has shown that there isn’t much you and I can do other than complain on the forums…

You know what I’m suggesting, automated ways to catch out and stop the most obvious and glaring weight doping, also methods to prevent the bots. Stopping the clearly impossible performances, cleaning up the leaderboards as well in the process.

You may not get them all the sophisticated methods but you’ll certainly stop a good deal of the others.

Or do you say no, we can’t stop all of them so we just let them all go and have freedom to do as they wish, much like some had hoped would occur with the bike upgrade cheating if they argued hard enough that it was okay and nothing was wrong.

I know yours may be a tongue in cheek query but….

I think it can be a very reasonable and lovely point of pride for both for the young and old to proclaim their age.

I’ve been on many group rides where preteens/teens have shown up with their age in their name and the response of group leaders and all in attendance has been to be very supportive of them and also to reasonably keep the chat age appropriate.

As for those on the older side, I think it is quite an achievement in to keep to an active lifestyle at a point with the the realities of the human body make it much more difficult to keep being physically active. I have been very impressed by many older Zwifters (some of whom proclaim their age and others who do not). But either way I have found them to be an inspiration. I’ve also had my @#$ handed to me by many a person senior to me in races — these folks needed no excuses at all, lol.

Exactly. My wife also Zwifts. I dont want her to see I was hammering down beers, pizza, burgers again …

You can tell by my outside rides that I don’t weigh that much (even though I think I weigh a ton, I weigh 71kg) because unless I’m pushing the flats really fast, it translates into nearly no power compared to what I would be doing in Zwift flats, which those speeds are a lot less safe outside.

I’m used to getting dumped downhill in real life, just like I am on Zwift.

I use a Withings scale and it hasn’t sync’d properly with Zwift for several years. It is connected - the data is updated every day (the weight rarely deviates more than 0.5kg in either direction), but nobody is listening on the Zwift side.

In the modern era, weight doping I think is on the “milder” side of Zwift cheating compared to the technology people use to simulate ANT+ or Bluetooth LE data. Some Zwifters, I wonder if they are actually using a bike at all.

…especially these people.

I’m surprised that Smart Bikes haven’t evolved to the point where the rider weight could be determined while sitting on the bike. KICKR BIKE V3/Zwift Ride 2 feature, perhaps? There’s a market for improving validity of data, if there’s a market willing to bring forth the hardware. Weight enforcement could then be used for the races that matter more than “it’s a game, who cares”?

I don’t race often on Zwift, but when I do, or join group rides with no pace limits, among the frontmost of riders, I tend to observe one or more of these things:

-Rider profile is entirely private so that you can’t view them or any of the top-level information.

-Rider is not on Zwift Power.

-Rider is not wearing a heart rate monitor (probably because they have no heart…)

There’s another aspect by which people could cheat, if they use power meter pedals, and adjust crank arm length or other compensation values to benefit their ego to kilometer ratio.

I just like correct data myself. :man_shrugging:

The tech is already there I mentioned it to Zwift over a year ago. A bike like mine would need the four feet replaced with wireless load cells hich would work almost identical to the modern TPS sensors in the 4 wheels of your car except they report weight not pressure. The weight of the bike is known and there are some smarts you can add to know its you on the bike. Zwift would have to run weight verified races and you could possibly show a verified symbol in the rider information. Bottom line is people wouldn’t like it because it suddenly invalidates everyone race that is not prepared to get validated so it will never happen. Unfortunately you are in the minority. Personally I have just put my weight in at the end of my surname as (95kg) and that is enough to make me happy. Other people have started doing it as well, funny thing is they all seem to be over 90kg.

There is already a verified symbol, yet I’ve seen one of those riders with that do a time on ADZ that was impossibly fast with very low power, so much that it would have been sub 45kg at least.

So I don’t take much note of that symbol .

Your maths is a shocker, there is no way to work out a rider weight unless you are lucky enough to catch a glimpse of there screen on the riders virtual bike to see the Watts. You cannot calculate someone’s Watts or their Weight with just W/kg. The W/kg posted up in the HUD of all the other riders is actually totally useless information. The only relevant number is your W/kg data.. The smart thing to do would be to alternate that W/kg number with the rider weight. I’m pretty sure the record number of 50 to 60kg riders would need to rethink their weight.

Have you tried selecting a rider on the riders-nearby list to look at their Watts?