The ZwiftPower Cat C winners were putting out 0.3w/kg less than you. Usually there is a 0.1w/kg tolerance over category limits and ZwiftPower uses your 3 best races/group rides over the last 90 days to categorize you. Looking at your profile this was your 1st race/group ride so ZwiftPower has no historical data for you but based on this 1 race you are easily a Cat B rider.
Looking at the Top 3 from that race they are all Cat C - Almost Cat B. As they have historical racing data they need to have 3 races that are over Cat C limits before they will be upgraded.
i 100% agree Gerrie. We all know the simple answer: auto select for the riders. so no rider in wrong cat and zwift has to change wkg system.
this 2 options would change the old and false system.
next good thing: every rider has to register in zwiftpower. that should also be included in the new system. frustrating when an A rider enters a B races and at half of the race he goes easily away with 4.2 wkg…
After several months of using Zwift, it feels like a training platform that offers races as opposed to an engaging, fair racing platform. It’s actually amazing that it works at all (soooo much better than nothing). As racers, we’re not in the Zwift business model, meaning the cost/benefit analysis isn’t there (another way of saying accurate racing events are not a priority). As a business manager, I’m approached with ideas all the time. Many are sensible, interesting concepts but there’s no clear payback to the investment.
Other platforms (RGT, etc.) could easily be in the same boat of always trying to appeal to more subscribers. Eventually, a racing platform may surface that caters to racers, but I suspect it would cost more than $15/mo and would struggle to get a critical mass of users to make it fun and interesting.
Need to have a limit on the “zwift power”+ “companion app” EDIT BUTTON on how many times one can use it for changing their weight, height etc has recent observations on one rider who sandbags on a reg basis is also changing his weight on a daily basis seems to turn up on same events as me he is an A he joined D I was in correct cat C it just ruins genuine riders races events really starting to notice this now after 10 months of being on zwift and can see why other riders get frustrated by this I do now!! it’s cheating a system
Be more creative! There are lots of easy solutions to your non-existent dilemma, and I’ve mentioned them in multiple other (Pace Partner related) threads! And they already exist - without having to create “more pace partners”… One way to up the power ante and ride at a power level between the existing PP categories, is to ride “in the wind”. Ride off the front of the PP peloton (without leaving the drops zone), and you will find your power requirements will be much higher. This requires skill and practice. Another way to obtain a ride experience between, say C.Cadence and B.Brevet would be to select a Time Trial (TT) bike before dropping into the C Category PP peloton. You will be deprived of the draft (but other riders will not be deprived of yours), and you will have to push about 20% (YRMV) higher average power than your same “normal” averages when with Cadence on a regular bike. If this is too much for you at first, then you can even attenuate your power requirement further, to be only slightly higher by selecting a Gravel Bike and using the same mechanism. Riding “in the wind”, using a regular road bike, then a gravel bike, then a TT bike, will give you gradations of power above the standard PP output such that you will be able to “graduate” to the “B” Category pace partner in no time. Obviously, all of these techniques can be applied to achieve a power level between D and C as well, or B to A and even above that. Frankly, I’ve not tried riding a TT bike with Anquetil, but one can hope (and train), right?!
While the term “recovery ride” probably has the widest range of (and often mis-used) definitions than any other level of training, depending on the Zone model (3, 5, 7, 9 zones???) to which you subscribe. But it doesn’t really matter, as long as you know which specific target heart rate or power level or nominal blood lactate level falls within your own definition of “recovery”, you can easily place yourself in your own “recovery” zone using one of these techniques. The “gaps” between the Pace Partner are not that large when using these tools. At the other end of the spectrum, you can push to VO2 levels within your own Cadence PP by merely falling back from the peloton until the proximity animation warns you of being dropped, and then pushing VO2max power until you reach the proximity animation warning at the front (or as long as you can last!) Rinse. Repeat. Now you’ve got HIIT intervals with a PP too! Easy-peasy.
This message is now the second time in the last few days when you have replied to me simply putting a brief comment in a discussion by deciding I know nothing and need you to educate me about what I should be doing.
You are mistaken. I mean to assist. I ended up in this thread by doing a search on all references to Pace Partners. It’s purely coincidence. The “reply” function is merely used to keep the content in CONTEXT. I’ve made no determinations whatsoever about you personally, your skill levels, or your lack of education. My comments are submitted for the benefit of the entire community, and not directed at any one individual. As yours should be. This is a public forum, not a conversation. Speak to us all, please. If you are writing without adding value, asking for a feature, or submitting a question, then you’re wasting all our time. I have no business pending with you unless you become involved with a Pace Partner discussion. That said, if you delete your response which only concerns me, then I’ll delete this clarifying answer - which concerns you. Cheers,
This thread was last active more than three weeks ago, having run its course. The latest posts are off topic and seem more antagonistic than constructive. Please keep discussions of Pace Partners in the relevant recently active threads.
