Exploit found which can lead cheating

That’s there for 1 specific reason, to stop people reporting others. It’s there to make things more difficult.

This was pointed out to @xflintx when the form was launched and I’m fairly sure he said this would be looked at.

Either way, the current route to contact zwift is not suitable for what it’s being asked to do.

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Which three would I pick? :rofl:

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The TTT World Champs winners list is interesting #justsaying

Go on, point us in the right direction.

Sorry to break the news to you, but… The media and the wider cycling world don’t really care all that much about Zwift racing, either. Case in point: On Saturday night, I checked what NOS (Dutch public broadcasting) were writing about e-racing worlds. I kept checking a few more times and gave up somewhere around 48 hours after the event. (In the mean time they did have the bandwidth to write about Dutch ice-hockey, among other things.) KNWU (Dutch Cycling) at least managed to do a press release about their new world champion – Monday afternoon.

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Yeah, they had used up all their Zwift word allowance the day before.

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Nah, not the day before, either. But yes, Zwift race cheating seems to be more interesting than Zwift racing per se. (The race broadcast sounding like one big infomercial does not exactly help, either.)

they’re just not interesting to watch. just like crossfit is (probably) more interesting to actually participate in than to watch. i’d rather just ride one myself

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UPDATE:

The server-side changes to prevent height and weight changes during an event are in place. Please see this thread for more information

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Great to see fix. Question and maybe for another thread but is anything being worked on to automatically flag sticky watts riders? I’m getting bored having to manually report riders after doing my own investigation of riders behaviour.

And with certain trainers it’s so hard to tell sometimes what is sticky or not. I’d be happy to share one such example which I recorded the rider in a ZRL race last night which I’ve reported to zwift twice yet he is still racing.

He is either cheating, faulty equipment or Zwift is interpreting is training data incorrectly. Whatever it is something is broken

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What does a rider using sticky watts look like in game?
I’ve seen weird things and wondered if that’s what it is.

power and cadence fluctuating up and down frequently. more often seen up hills. like this

Although what makes me wonder is when i see just power fluctuating with cadence barely moving Maybe it’s a faulty trainer or something zwift is doing to record power wrong. Annoyingly ZP does not show cadence graph so can be quite hard to verify which can lead to false reports. I’d much rather zwift deal with it than me second guessing if a rider is cheating.

and stuff like this guy i’ve reported twice yet he is still racing. Now he is either cheating or has something seriously up with his trainer/zwift to produce a power graph like this. I can’t believe power fluctuates this badly. Approx. 350w peak to 50w dips

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You might occasionally see the watts briefly drop. If someone is doing sticky watts really well then you won’t see a drop but sometimes they will mess up and you might see it go 6w/kg down to 1w/kg before going back up again.

Here’s an example of someone using some sticky watts. You can see that they sprint up to 600w a few times then stop pedaling and Zwift holds the 600w for 3 seconds.

This isn’t a great example of sticky watts but it does show the basic principles in action. Ideally you want to pedal for 1 second, stop for 2, then repeat. Done well and with intent other riders won’t see any change to your power. It would only be detectable after the event as Gordon who posted above shows.

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That looks very fatiguing but, is it breaking any rules?
I assume only certain trainers or power meters do this.
If the trainer or power meter is at fault, could they just be categorized the same as Zpower
If the trainer or power meter is not at fault, should the rider’s account be flagged Z power for a period of 30 days from the occurrence. I’m sure an official warning will need to be issued.

Good Zwiftinsider article explaining it here @Tim_Camden_C and answers most of your questions!

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I guess Eric is lucky or smart that he didn’t use a more clickbaity headline for that article. Going back and reading it again makes you wonder why Luciano got banned. This article is literally doing the exact same thing by showing you the various ways you can cheat with this exploit.

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That video is creepy. Why is he looking up? Not to mention broadcasting himself pedaling like an idiot.

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hahahah crazy. this is not cycling…
Zwift should immediately ban him !

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That appears more like gaming the system that outright cheating which is a form of data manipulation. Something to consider for post race analysis.

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