I agree but it needs to be even smarter than that. Based on your height and weight it becomes impossible for someone at 65Kg to loose weight. Heavier riders have much more potential to loose weight, especially those just starting to use Zwift. Reality is your weight should not be able to be changed in Zwift by more than a couple of Kg a month. Loosing more than that ? great keep up the hard work it will plateau and Zwift will probably catchup within 6 to 9 months.
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Sure, I get that and I agree, that is reasonable but, I think that unreasonable wt adjustments should preclude you from racing for 30 days, 90 days whatever and, if your wt goes up, perhaps make you stay at that wt fo 30 days
We need to discourage wt manipulation what ever the reason.
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If this sort of thing is necessary then the people doing it should be calling for zwift to make it an additional feature. An option to add ballast for a ride or an event without having to change the profile weight.
Of course there are already other ways to keep groups together with different power. Using a slower bike or a different class of bike such as a gravel or MTB will slow you significantly. Meetups and events can have rubber banding to keep everyone together regardless of power.
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I do not see a reason for this at all.
Weight manipulation for this purpose is wrong. Period.
If you need to do more power, then perhaps the group you normally ride with is not the group you should be riding with.
Or do as @Tom_Shelton suggested - use a different bike.
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Itâs a simple premise. For example, you wish (but it doesnât exist) there was a 2.0 wk/kg robopacer. So you raise your in-game weight a bit and then choose the 1.8 w/kg robopacer. Or thereâs a fun bunch of folks/club doing a 2.0 w/kg group ride event, but youâd rather ride it at 2.5 w/kg. Thereâs a ton of scenarios where you can see the no-harm-done scenario and, âwhat harm is there in handicapping myself?â
estimated power, often referred to as âzpowerâ, is and has always been overestimated. I used it in the first few months and I found out with a power meter, I lost 50 watts of power and maybe 85 off from my sprint power. It can be painful to see the actual power meter measured watts.
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Just had a reply from Zwift re. Cone of Shame who say to calibrate the trainer just before the race. A bit annoying but I guess it is just what the cone is about. Nevertheless after the race yesterday I rode in Z2 for about 20 mins and then calibrated before continuing the ride, and I couldnât percieve any difference. PM pedals should be with me this week so I will hopefully have a definitive answer soon.
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âI got disqualified by the Cone of Shame both on uphill drags whilst following an attack. The first time was 450w for 90s, well below my PR of 490w. Second was 10s at 500wâ
Lots of suggestions about calibration, power meters and that sort of thing, but⌠those numbers arenât in anyway outlandish for 61kg. Something went wrong here. Especially the 10s at 500w which is ludicrous to be flagged for âhey this is pro output.â
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But butâŚ..Doesnât the core also sport auto spinndown now?
Or is this an older model, in which case I can understand it
It is based on w/kg. What is your weight? Also, consider the total of 10s toward 30s and 60s and if you used a feather power-up, which affects the w/kg measured. If it is zpower (estimated) it is probably inflated by 10-25%.
Theyâve said theyâre using a Kickr core, so not zPower.
The numbers are good, but theyâre not as outrageous as many others who seem to be avoiding the cone.
Itâs good to see that the cone still exists in the game, there are far too many unrealistic performances on zwift. But it should come with an email from zwift support detailing how to verify that the performance is real.
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That may be true but I thought i was addressing someone else.
A few months ago, several riders were getting coned using 2 feathers back to back.
Too bad those cones donât translate to Strava.
I wonder how some of those times translate to IRL, eg, a sub 36min ADZ lap, wonder what time that person would do for the real climb.
Would it be still sub 40 minutes?
There are some interesting performances at the moment thatâs for sure. When you are on ADZ daily for a few hours at a time doing double laps you see it all.
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I was addressing the OP. But for myself itâs 63kg. Iâve never been coned for far in excess of OPâs 500w/10s at 61kg = 8.2w/kg coneing incident. Zwift canât cone people for that output. The sprint of every single menâs A race and likely B race would have everyone disqualified. Thatâs why Iâm saying it must be some sort of error.
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oh, okay. I didnât see their Strava ride, but the 10 seconds was probably part of a 30 or 60 second wattage per kilogram that went beyond the limits.
Real life would be much slower. There is a lot of factors: wind, road surface, oxygen level, bike performance and bike weight. No power-ups (the Alp can have four total).
Illi, for example rode in real life 46 minutes (one kilometer longer and 50 meters higher)
She rode a 37 minute time on Zwift Alp. ( She is the real deal, holding the real life record.)
(without looking) I think the menâs outdoor official Alp is 39 and Zwift is about 32. (the real racers like FO, and JO and LT)
42:36 for Illi at 243 watts and 37:16 at 252 watts (5.8 w/kg which was verified)
36 minutes for menâs and Zwift 32:32 and 32:33 FO and LT (6.3 w/kg verified)
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Thatâs irrelevant to this topic. Iâm still unsure what triggered the DQ.
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Contact support.
they may ask you to verify power through a text or outdoor ride. They may explain why.
looks like game is flagging you. FTP wonât matter as much as short sustained power based on w/kg.
Escalate support. Thatâs a bad response.
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We did have this a couple of years ago but that was linked to a Hilly route banner timing issue. Two different locations this time. Might be related, will probably need to wait and see if anyone else reports same issue.