Coffee breaks

I think what we actually need here is;

Zwift arcade mode. Anything goes, any power source or QZ even. Whatever you can do at an input level and whatever it happens to do in game is fair game.

Zwift super serious mode. People use their actual weight, power, and height. They don’t get to use coffee stops to ruin the sanctity of the group ride or race. No late joins. Speeds are reflective of ability outdoors.

Pick the server you want when you log in. Anyone who complains is IP banned.

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Or a powerup that does the same thing as disconnecting someone from the internet for their ride and reconnecting them at the end, so they don’t see all the nasty coffee cups :slight_smile: (I might be being too blase)

Totally fine, those rides will be quite empty and few people for the coffee stop folk to latch on to.

I don’t see coffee stops on the rides I do - people don’t like hills very much so it is quite peaceful.

That Super Zwift Serious Mode better not have Tron bikes, or squirrel hats, or sasquaches, or silly volcanos, or any of the stuff I don’t like. :wink:

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Serious mode will look exactly like TrainerRoad. Serious people only want graphs.

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love a good coffee stop moaning thread

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What I find really odd is that this is the first time someone has complained about others using the Coffee Stop.
{/sarcasm}

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Nothing beats the coffee climbers!

Photo credit: @Eric_Schlange

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I think that’s officially called a ‘clutch’ of riders.

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I feel like I need to create a macro that automatically pastes this into every new thread about coffee stops.

May those that ride with us, ride with us;
And those that don’t ride with us, May God turn their wheels;
And if He can’t turn their wheels, May He show a big Coffee Stop icon above them,
So we will know them by their laziness

Personally, I have no issue with someone using Coffee Stop on their own, or on a group ride, but there may be a reaction. I’ve had someone use it next to me on a group ride during a climb. I slowed down, unhitched them, and continued on my way while they stopped. I could only do that because the icon above them told me they were doing that. I’ve seen many a person do it on group rides going up the Petite KOM in France, for example. Okay, show the rest of the group who you are and open yourself up to ridicule; doesn’t hurt me in any way.

I’ve also been on group rides (PRL Full about a year ago, for example) where we talked about it, and agreed that we were all fine if someone wanted to use it to refill a water bottle, use the washroom; whatever. But we also agreed that we wouldn’t use it on the climb. It allowed everyone to take a break if they needed, but without losing the benefits of being with the group.

Do some people abuse it? Of course. Does their use impact me, my ride, or my fitness? Only if I let it make me irritated.

Or … I can use it as motivation to push harder that that person. I know that either I stayed with the group up that hill all on my own, or I know that I gave it everything I had, and just need to keep working to maybe keep up with that group next time. Either way, it’s a win for me.

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What kind of ridicule? Type some mean words in game chat?
You don’t know them, and you should surely not ridicule them. At least they are off the couch.

How I ride is my business, not anyone else’s.
How you ride is your business, not mine.
How someone else rides is their business, not anyone else’s.

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it is good to have something to read while being towed up a hill

Just change the coffee stop so it can be used from the start to end of the route, no time limits and solve all these arguments once and for all. Nobody needs ride up any hills again, you can enjoy a coffee on your coffee stop without distraction or having to rush, the benefits are endless.

Just imagine you wouldn’t have to rejoin a second or third time when inconveniently dumped at the start of a hill when late joining a ride.

I know you are joking but this exists and people are doing it. :slight_smile: