Flint mentioned in this thread that they take the best value, it is not an average.
6 laps of champs elysee is going to be a struggle
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Any laps of Champs Elysees is a struggle 
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I have never completed a race on The Champs I felt like I’d done well. It always kicks my ass…
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Finally, something happening!
I have not logged anything on Zwift for a year, yet I`m able to join the D-category. Bug?
I don’t see how this is a bug if we have no data for you?
I thought Flint’s initial description was that you had to enter A if you had no data but maybe I am mistaken.
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I’ll double check but I’m pretty sure we just use 2 months of rolling data.
This is from Flints opening post:
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What happens if I don’t have ride data within the last two months?
- You’ll only be able to sign up for category A until you have ride data again. If you’d like to have a better range of categories to access, we recommend that you do a ride with higher efforts or even a race or two before signing up for these events.
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Yep, you guys are right, sorry!
I’ll raise with Flint.
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Why are there no women’s only event available for this?
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We found the issue, and we’re working on getting the fix out right now. Should be sorted out within the next couple hours and you can try again.
Edit: this issue is fixed now. If you’re signed up for a race in a category lower than A and have no ride data within the last 60 days, I ask that you un sign-up and then refresh the event before signing up again, particularly Since these tests are designed to provide a fair racing experience.
If you do not wish to race in A and feel that you are better placed in a different category, please go do at least one or two rides to get some data in to get a more accurate category to race within.
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Good, seems to be fixed, only A left for me now.
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Hi @xflintx - maybe this has been answered already (hard to follow everything), but bodes asking… w/ the new formula(s) out there to determine race category which will likely/surely be tweaked going forward… will the possibility of varying categories per race/per rider exist in the future? Or per race type?
For example, if someone has a high VO2Max/high 15s-1m effort ability, will those metrics be weighted more heavily in shorter, Crits - & perhaps straight FTP be weighted more heavily in TTs? This of course, somewhat falls in line with the 4DP concept & could open up the possibility for the same rider to be perhaps Cat C in TTs, but Cat B in Criteriums.
Food for thought & a chance to implement something that would be too difficult/too impractical outside in USAC road racing.
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I would love to see this configurable by the race organiser rather than automated for the course/race type…
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I’d love for that to happen, yes. As far as it concerns features and development, it seems to me what you’re speaking to is much more aligned with what we might think of as autocategorization. So while we’re testing for simple restriction here based on performance, these tests are designed to help us implement a permanent system that might one day fit into a more robust and complex system that could do exactly what you’re speaking to here.
Love the idea, and I think it would add great fidelity to racing. I’m hopeful that someday soon I can make a thread announcing this for us as something we can deliver to the larger community.
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I was thinking about this today. For generic workouts I think you are correct, but given FTP tests are workouts those workouts in particular might actually do the opposite (i.e. punish people who have taken formal “go until failure” tests rather than let the game itself decide your FTP from races where many might not have not gone to failure). So, those FTP tests might bump you up in the CP range a slight bit more than you’ve done in a race in the past. If you’re looking across all Zwifters, is it likely that inclusion of a “go to failure” test would bump up the average Zwifter’s CP point more than their general races might?
For me for instance, my eFTP from intervals.icu is using my last ramp test, not the races I have done. But I’ve only done a few so not sure if that would last like this or not.
I might have misunderstood the CP section of the calculation, so not sure if my theory holds any water or not.
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I understand your point, but there are race scenarios that do exactly the same.
Example 1 - 16km time trial. This is a 20m-25m FTP test for most people, and is a very popular race format
Example 2 - my Socks4Watts hill climb series. Flat out effort on a climb, from 2 min to 10 min duration. Only the KOM time counts, so the rest is a cruise
Does the new categorisation system make those races unattractive? It’s better to just account for everything, and get as true a picture of the rider as you can.
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Likewise racers who only ever typically do 40+ km races will likely be underrated, since they’re not pacing themselves to only last 20-25 minutes, right?