and… if there is a static podium bonus, just tell us and make it a reward.
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note: i cannot for the life of me be bothered to check if his score actually moved or not. i just notice all these things because there’s nothing else left to notice
Good to see that somebody is using zwift.com/events/view/zid
I found a new challenge - how long can I last in ZRS-B before being dropped back to C? Trying to see the bright sides of ZRS 
In the first 3 tries, I managed to stay there once before being dropped back to C. Then I managed to stay there twice but made a mistake to join the Zwift Worlds Experience in Yorkshire where power difference was a huge factor. It took only one race in C to be back in B but it was a win so no complaints.
I wonder if my recent ZRS-C wins were due to me getting better or the fact that others seem to not push hard enough in the last few km to score a good finish position.
After a few weeks of testing it’s very apparent that there is a fundamental problem with the way the seed score was calculated. 30s and 10min efforts predominantly father light weight riders or those with high 20, 40min ftp power but poor 30s sprint ability. The D races have largely been turned into C races with the C races a mid B race. Just check out the times and 20min w/kg efforts in these lower pens. Also pen E is very poorly attended which shows that it’s a wasted pen in most cases. Zwift’s decision to only run with 5 pens made them compromise on a lot of key points.
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@Martin_Skapa i have new game, i have 2 to 3 mini games i have now with ZRS,
ZwiftPower - Login look at the time gaps, that was all me, C was the best time beating the B’s. i drop 400 watts for 2 min Blew the Group sideway with in the 1st 2 min. 
this 3rd time this week blew up the race in the 1st 2 min 
you get itt you get itt this race.
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just patiently waiting for something more comprehensive to come along
that’s gonna be a hard habit for them to unlearn if they don’t wise up quick
This is what mystifies me, and as far as I know they haven’t said what a successful ZRS looks like. There are a bunch of other things they could have done before implementing ZRS to improve the racing experience. Namely, giving race organizers the ability to tinker with some of the core game mechanics without having to move mountains (which from a technical perspective sounds impossible). Reshuffling categories isn’t going to magically improve the core experience, but from what I can tell, the debate over ZRS has generated way more forum rage than the PD 4.0 → 4.1 debate. Despite PD being far more impactful to how racing actually unfolds.
Not following the debate here, because other stuff to do… but so do I understand correctly that we are nowadays expected to go all out till the very last meter of a race, no matter the dynamics, to avoid being accused of cheating? 
These scenarios are so common, expected… and a completely legitimate way of approaching racing, that I’m flabbergasted anyone would opt for a racing score system that would suffer from such a flaw.
I really don’t understand how this is any better than the (much more transparent) existing USAC system underlying the zwiftpower ranking.
Is there an easy way to sort who has the highest 10 min and 30s power in a race before the race? Not ZP but on Zwift or companion?
Those scenarios are legitimate and expected as you say. None of them are cheating, but neither perhaps are any of those scenarios deserving of having your ranking/score diminished.
the simplest way to put it for now would be for me to say… race the way you want to race and don’t stress it. the system on the whole needs a touch up here and there (that’s in the works), but i feel pretty confident saying that if you just race according to your normal habits then zrs will be able to account for it
the faq honestly is pretty good, as long as you take every word at face value. its the kind of system you’d like, i think. they tried a ZP based prototype about a year ago and it wouldnt have done the job at all… this one is pretty good.
Actual tanking. Bottom of A just now. There are a few more to finish yet. They are lower cat folks trying to get back to the cat they want.
The rest of the example’s that I gave. All happen and probably shouldn’t result in a Cat reset or major score change really. Doesn’t matter a huge amount though.
The “soft tanking” or score management is the one that’s impossible to handle well. When someone races to stay with the lead group then finishes back of pack to stay in cat. They could go harder but don’t… does it matter? Probably only on GC like chasing tour or FRR
Zwift Academy Race 1, 30mins timed event, Racing Score.
“Full” results 1330 GMT…
Zwiftpower results 1330 GMT…
Hmmm… 
Not 100% sure what you are referring to:
But the ZCA race results are correct and race point movements aren’t they?
The relative positions of the zwiftpower registered racers aren’t the same in each set of results.
It’s a timed event, not a distance event, so this always happens. Nothing to do with ZRS.
Here is an old one, same issue. ZwiftPower - Login
It would be great if this could be up to 690 and above 690 / or 690 / 691 … for instance. Does it really matter? no. Does it break anything? probably not. Is it wrong? absolutely.
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