Yeah, starting under pure seed score makes no sense…
You join a race, do badly, but your score can’t decrease because you’re already at 85% of power seed score… The floor.
To me this also makes logical sense. Your seed is your starting point, but you can go a bit below it if you do poorly in races. Also I would say the time-decay would only go to your seed, not 15% below your seed, not sure how that works.
sucks for them and it’s not like they can even go do another race as all are ZRS. They will just opt out racing until a few months later when hopefully a lot of riders move up to nearer seed…unless they do the tiny races each week and stay in a nice comfy score 
So Day 1 score is Seed - 15%?
Is that correct?
If 15% below your seed is everyone’s starting point, then isn’t that the “seed”? It sounds like they took an arbitrary number and scaled it down by a fixed amount
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Starting under 100% seed score also means some racers will fall just under the pen limit for a lower pen. Blowing up at least their first race.
This sounds poorly thought through.
everyone asked to be able to go below seed as it was pretty well seen that some riders were being overseeded and needed some movement downwards to be able to find a competitive race.
But not set everyone to minus 15% that’s just some left field idea that makes no sense.
Why? Surely that doesn’t make it an initial, nor seed score. Surely the only point of a floor is to allow a rider to drop a little based on their racing skill when compared to a rider with the same power base. Apart from 15% being a real significant amount, it seems that the point of it, and initial request for it from the community has been missed.
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Yeah it doesn’t make sense to me either. If everyone starts at 15% below and they go no lower regardless of results, that’s no different than everyone starting right at the original value. Scaling that value does nothing.
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15% Discount for everyone 
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Doesn’t matter where the lines are drawn or discounts or anti-discounts or anything else. There will be people blowing up their first races, it’s going to happen a lot, and there’s not much to do to stop it other than improve the seed algorithm.
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@calfzilla blowing up in both Ways i bet. out the back and out the front.
Might of been some confusion here.
When you say how we discount initial scores does that mean there is a discount of some sort below seed?
or will on reset everyone be reset to seed with the ability to drop 15% to floor?
How/when would there ever still be a gain?
Hi James, I’m not an organiser (well, most of us aren’t) - can you or anyone else who understands the the distinction between a “public” and a “private” event clarify that for us? for example as in private, would “private” mean say, ladder or TTTs or any other racepass/invite only style event?
thanks to you and zhq for all the work so far
Reset has happened as we can read above. I got placed at 495 so no where near my initial score from July as predicted.
ps
Ohh wait, 5PM PT is in 30 minutes. Ahh well, now we can see what changes for me. 495 now, and will update it when I wake up again.
2 hrs early? Darn, I was going to change my weight 
Hey Gordon…Yes, definitely a misunderstanding and apologies to all for the confusion.
I should have clarified. After the reset later today, everyone’s score will be reset to their seed value, with the ability to drop down by 15% to their floor.
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