This is incorrect. If ZRS is within range to enter the race, the result stands. If the rider gets upgraded during the race, they keep the result and are pushed into a higher pen for their next race. That’s the way it works.
Please explain why he got booted then.
Because HE ISN’T REGISTERED WITH ZWIFTPOWER.
He is not being booted, he chooses not to be in the ZwiftPower results.
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I was somewhat hoping when Zwift took over zwiftpower they would be able to auto-sign in folks to ZP. They did create a unified sign-in, and the data is all shared with the same company at this point so it seems like it should be possible from a privacy perspective no?
It seems wrong to make folks looking at ZP think they’ve won a race just because someone didn’t put extra effort into creating a ZwiftPower profile with an otherwise reasonable set of race numbers etc.. If they cheated that’s a different thing, but just not having the profile being the reason they aren’t in the results is a bummer given the site is now owned by Zwift.
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He’s in first place in the only results sees, and feeling great about it.
I’m just going to leave this here.
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When trying to understand technical problems, self-doubt is a super power. Do I really understand this thing? Is there a possible explanation other than what I think is the answer? Is there any other factor that could be more relevant than what I perceive as the cause? Could this just be really complicated and there are actually half a dozen reasons why something happened? What if we test this and that and another thing to find out? And if we don’t get there, accept the uncertainty. Some things are unknown and that can be very uncomfortable.
Lets just agree we are both feeling great about it.
Yes I agree that everyone should just have an automatic sign in to Zwiftpower, this would immediately increase the number of people showing in the results.
that’s what I mean by this:
Too bad then you don’t get to be in the Zwift power results, simple.
Don’t you guys in the USA have that clause, ignorance is not a defence when it comes to the law ?
Maybe you guys need to contact him and get him to sign up.
I for one do not really buy into the idea that ZwiftPower is the “true” results of a race. I do not race regularly on Zwift, and the only other results for me that show on ZwiftPower are from the big Zwift event group rides. If I want to feel good about my finish placement, I know I can turn to ZwiftPower for a false sense of accomplishment, since I know that there will undoubtedly be some who finished ahead of me that are not on ZwiftPower.
I’m quite certain that there are many Zwifters who have absolutely no idea what ZwiftPower is or that it exists.
For that reason, the fallacy that ZwiftPower is the “true” results of racing persists.
The Zwifters who have no concept of ZwiftPower view the results shown on Zwift as the truth. That cannot be denied, or diminished.
What would be ideal is if Zwift would perform whatever DQ ZwiftPower performs in real time. Zwifters who would be DQ’d on ZwiftPower should be DQ before the finish line of the race.
Do away with ZwiftPower. It’s relevancy and time has passed.
Which law are you referring to? Laws are written down.
Ultimately even if you had the supposed perfect “One source of the truth” there will still be arguments as to why people got a DQ. The number of people with objections would only increase if Zwift starting using some powerful analytical AI tools and Zwift don’t even want to sort out the basics like massive weight variations and even crazy height variations, Hell I can still go into my profile and change my age for Christ’s sake.
Failure to lock down even the basics means there will never b a “true” results to a race anyway. Trying to improve the race results will only lead to more objections, its just a lose lose situation for Zwift overall. Personally I’m just happy that Zwiftpower exists, its fine in its current form, it has an easy to access log of all my “Races” and I check it after the ride.
You’ve wandered away from the conversation. If you want to understand the rules and results for an event, look at the event description. Zwift Games explicitly direct participants to a source of results that is not ZwiftPower. Some other events do, or they point to some other source of results like Club Ladder or ZRL.
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No interest in the “Zwift Games” its an independent race result in Zwiftpower as far as i’m concerned.
I do the challenges, route of the week and various events like all of the 18 rides on the last tour to get the 12,500 bonus Xp’s and bike upgrades all on the way to level 100.
If I win a few races along they way, then great its just the cherry on the top.
Currently level 87, probably up to another 12 months to go to hit the 100.
They just aren’t that reliable because you have older people who may still have a lot of power, but they have lower maximum heart rates, that’s just what happens when you get older. Everyone is different. You could come join some folk I ride with in real life and see just how fast they are with very low heart rates, and they are older than me.
If you looked at my heart rates versus power you’d be massively outraged, but without knowing that I’ve got excellent cardio fitness and I’m like a diesel engine (in real life too) and getting more fit.
Anyhow you’ve all gone way off topic with this.
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I believe Carl’s point was using each person’s individual HR over time to determine if they are putting in a minimal effort or not. Not comparing my HR to yours and the other people in the race.
But yeah, off topic and not important
Correct and I cannot be bothered to even go into the amount of time you are individually able to stay in each of your five HR zones both individual segments and cumulative totals over the whole ridewith age playing a significant role. The level the AI would need to go to would probably be challenged as a privacy breach, so that’s probably never going to happen now.
AI Overview
Recent, significant changes in heart rate and health data privacy are focused on
giving users more control over sharing, enhancing on-device processing, and tightening security against third-party access
, particularly in 2025 and 2026.
Long live ZwiftPower, zwift GC is no good.
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