Dual recordings are easy to manipulate… and it’s of course possible to get two power meters to overread simultaneously.
This blind faith in dual recording has been a free pass for fraud for many of the Pogacar-VdP-like wonders at the top end of the ranking - I am sure.
Unfortunately, every time I want to send the form, I receive a “Your submission was not successful.”
What do I have to do, to get support about my ZP profile? The form clearly doesn’t work and I don’t want to report anyone, anyway. It doesn’t reflect the use case if you have an inquiry about your own profile.
FWIW at most one or two of my A cat ZRL team (mix of A and A+) have dual recording ability - if “randomly” asked to validate we will have no option but to withdraw (dual recording mandatory for A1 div validation). Luckily it hasn’t happened so far.
Please send a E-mail to zwiftpower@zwift.com
When you do, come armed with some information so that they can help you more quickly and easily:
Please include some screenshots as well as the details on your browser when this happens. You can pull up the detailed view we’d need with the F12 key.
There was no intention to offend or accuse someone of cheating. What I was trying to make Zwift community realise is there should be another category for those kids who weighs like 30kg (with 4+wkg) to make it fair for all including them. Don’t you think it will contribute to make Zwift more realistic?
Yesterday’s 3R race dynamics were determined entirely by a 60+ year old of 70kg, with a 17wkg 15 sec sprint power, who could hold 5.5wkg for the first quarter of the race without going over 110bpm.
It was won by another guy (70kg), with a 25wkg sprint, and a 16wkg 1 minute power output. He has been racing for 50 races without being flagged, sanctioned, or removed from results on ZP consistently. I think it’s safe to say realistic racing (or the development of e-cycling as a sports discipline that is to be taken seriously) is far from a priority.
There are cases where it would be very useful if the “View Race Report” page still worked, and if it had a zoom function. This power/cadence/HR vs time graph can sometimes be viewed elsewhere, but not always. When a rider is already suspicious, and then you find their data is hidden…
Hey Flint,
I have numerous ZP, 20min and DQ issues on Zwift Power, I had significant issues with the powermeter of my Elite Turno turbo trainer between 25th of August and 6th of October, I am sorry for that. Since the beginning of October I am using a Vector 3 powermeter system and contaced the seller of my turbo trainer to solve the problem of the worng power numbers out put.
I would appreciate to get this power numbers and race result deleted or at least get my estimated max. power numbers get set back to the old ones, before all that went wrong with the power numbers.
Thnaks for your support in advance and take care!
Best regards from Germany
Tim
As suggested above best to email zwiftpower to request a category reset.
@Gordon_Rhino-Racing, bit of a late reply here but I disagree that Cat A’s necessarily have much better kit, especially not a second power meter. I hate to boast (but it’s necessary…) Cat A is not particularly difficult to achieve once you have Zwift if you have a history of sporting ability and a willingness to train. I was in Cat A almost from the day I got my first turbo trainer. I was Cat A before I even had a HR monitor or head unit. It was 6 months before I got my first power meter (as with others I came from a history of mountain biking where nobody gathered data).
I do now have all that kit because I’m lucky to also have a reasonable budget, but I know plenty of people capable of being Cat A without the ability to dual record who could/would never spend the £1000 I spent on all that this year (on top of the £700 for a Kickr Core)
Example: Let’s say both were cheating:
Two Cat A rider with the same equipment different time: One get 55:35 and other get 55:12.
The one that gets 55:12 was disqualified and the other won the race with more time.
How Zwift power are measures riders? Look like is not about power.
Not sure why you’re asking me, but nobody gets disqualified from Cat A due to power.
Edit: unless it’s above world class numbers, obviously.
Yeah that’s about right. I’m mean I’m in my 50s with no history of any notable athletic ability and I can reach A cat numbers with a bit of effort though I’m actually a B right now. I live in fear that WTRL will (randomly) demand ZADA validation from my A1 division ZRL team, I don’t think we have 4 riders who can dual record so we’d be disqualified or have to withdraw if they did. I’m certainly not going to go out and spend $1000 on kit I don’t want or need just on the off chance that they might do so.
(The rules say they will randomly pick teams for validation which in the case of A1 division requires dual power recording as well as height and weight videos. Needless to say we are not in the frame for promotion to PD when this would be important.)
Does this form do anything anymore? I’ve reported the same ‘suspicious’ rider four times in the past four weeks and every week they’re still allowed to line up for the weekly ZRL race with no obvious change in performance.
maybe you need to contact WTRL?
WTRL dont administer the platform?
Im doubtful you would advise the poster to contact 3R or one of the other race organisers if someone was cheating in one of their races? The response would be, report it to Zwift.
I agree with you @Lee_H, it should fall on Zwift to handle… but we both know better. Zwift handed ZRL over to WTRL years ago and seem to rely on them to handle it all… so go to the source, the people actually running the event, is my advice.
WTRL will address cheating in the ZRL series (via ZHQ, who knows?) if you provide them with incontrovertible evidence.
Problem being, the thread and poster comments on ‘suspicious activity’ - Based on that, it wouldnt meet the threshold of incontrovertible evidence that WTRL demand.
Zwift on the other hand, have a duty to investigate it. For fair racing etc.
My issues is, Zwift should be dealing with this. Advising someone to contact another party, asks the 3rd party to waste time & energy on something they shouldn’t be dealing with (im sure WTRL would prefer not to deal with it) and makes it more difficult for end users to report these types of issue. It should be a single point of contact to have these things looked at quickly & dealt with efficiently.
Zwift are super happy if the expectation falls on everyone but them to own these issues.
