KISS Super League race coverage

Don’t know if this is deliberate or a Zwift Companion app, but during the race I wasn’t able to give a Ride On to anyone in it.

Zwift told me various people I follow were “Zwifting now”, but when I tapped on them I didn’t get the live data display and no thumb to give them a Ride On.

Sounds like a slight hiccup with the Companion app’s connection to the server. We’re monitoring a few of these cases and investigating as well. When you tried force closing the app then restarting it were you still having this issue?

I did, but it was only apparently with people in that race. I gave Ride Ons to other people, which is why I wondered if it was deliberate.

So we have this bugged up and it seems specific to iOS devices. Is that what you’re using for ZC? We have some reproduction steps as well that may trigger that issue every time.

Just watched the race back. I watched it on my iPad live (whilst Zwifting) and then on the TV for a second look.

There were some definite positives

  • generally better camera angles during the race, helicopter shots etc
  • labels to show the main pack, breakaway etc
  • the guest speakers were placed in a small box in the top corner allowing the racing to take centre stage
  • the footage of the teams in their pain caves showed a good insight
  • the side on replay of the finish was very good, would be good to have this for the intermediate sprints.

Some unchanged issues

  • sound levels still a bit dodgy, Greg was much louder than Nathan or Matt
  • sprint footage was confusing, static cameras or a better overhead view would help
  • the ending felt a bit flat still, although the pre-recorded interview with Jon Mould was a good addition.

Some things that were worse

  • 13-15 minutes there was some horribly glitchy riders and the cameras were jumping all around
  • there was no commentary of the first sprint and there were no ‘live’ results of the 2nd and 3rd sprints
  • the results were to the nearest second, I’m sure last week they were to the nearest hundredth of a second and that should be easy to do.
  • the overall sprint results weren’t shown
  • the live YouTube stream started over 3 minutes into the race. Did someone forget to press the button?

Overall an improvement from last week and clear that feedback is being taken onboard (hence why I’m writing another post). Appreciate it is a learning curve for the production team as much as the riders! Enjoyed watching and will be tuning in again next week.

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No, Android. Google Pixel 2.

Interesting, ok thanks for the details I’ll ring this up :ride_on:
If this happens again please let me know!

Is it possible to have the video feed available in a Youtube search at least 30 minutes ahead of the official broadcast time?

I do enjoy watching these for the most part but i don’t know who is controlling the camera angles but the constant switching is really annoying.
I really don’t want to see the helicopter shots, where half the time all you can see is the tops of buildings etc.
Stick to the usual rider views pls

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A helicopter shot gave us the most exciting view of the win yesterday.

I think the problem with helicopter shots is they are great for an overview and artistic shots. Seeing a drawn out peloton snaking down the road, looking at the gaps between riders and groups. Sweeping shots of chateaux and tractors arranged into the shape of a bicycle. You know what I mean.

But the Zwift helicopter shot is, to me, not an exciting viewpoint for a head-to-head sprint. It’s flawed because it’s fixed on a rider. As we saw last night, if that rider gets passed the shot becomes particularly bad.

For example:



By the third image, Alex West has come into shot, blasted past Connor Brown and ridden out of shot again.

We’re still on Brown here, but he’s about to be swallowed by Mould.

Then we cut to the chase cam on Bibby. Huh? Where did he even come from?

If all riders actually stayed on screen and we saw a wider overhead shot that covered more ground and followed the actual head of the race, it’d be better.

I think at the very least Zwift needs a free camera mode rather than the fixed ones.

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Zwift suffers and benefits from the same thing, being a virtual world. They can put the camera in a position that the real world couldn’t which can give an interesting perspective. The over the shoulder close up view. This is fine when courting along in the bunch at a fairly stable pace. It does not work when riders are jumping position and spread out such as at sprints or KOMs. This is when a static position works better or semi static such as a camera moto in front of them. At least in the Zwift world they would be able to negate the impact of a leading motocam.