Zwift roadmap communication and Wahoo-RGT

Accessing the garage before starting a ride.

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I think it’s 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

There are issues in some things that get released (including the homescreen) that cannot fathomably have been tested by anyone who actually uses Zwift.

The answer is probably to allow users to opt-in to bleeding edge releases…

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The only thing I want to know is when zwift is going to roll out the feature that makes my legs better?

All the recent updates and add ons have not made the watts I am able to push any better, if anything they are getting lower!

Sort it out Zwift!

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That’ll be the TrainerRoad integration…

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The only thing I want to know is when zwift is going to roll out the feature that makes my legs better?

They’re doing a slow roll out. You didn’t get it yet? Bummer.

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Here ya go, folks: Competition & AI Tech Update: April 2022 Recap

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Level systems are great until folks have been on the platform long enough to max out and realize that the system is “broken”. Max of 50 is a pain point for Zwift and they know it.

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Steering as a Zwift plus? If the functionality of the “feature” wasn’t so laughable, I would be p*ssed about how rarely I use it on my Kickr Bike.

I don’t think this is accurate. I mean yes, it’s a bit annoying for some people when they hit level 50, but I don’t think I’d call it a “pain point for Zwift”.

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I didn’t put that there. I was quoting the OP. I tried steering a couple times on repack ridge when that first came out but with the drift, it was a total botch using my phone. I haven’t used it since but maybe it’s gotten better for those of you with fancy toys? Doesn’t sound like it though.

There was a big group ride a couple months back where a pro leading the ride asked what the highest level in the group of riders was and if anyone was higher than lvl 50. I think it was Eric Min who publicly responded on the ride chat that it was a sensitive topic. So maybe not a point of pain for ZHQ, but there are not so pleasant feelings for it. Is that a better way to phrase it?

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Yep, I’ll allow that :rofl:

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Steering on the Elite Rizer is pretty good

Max of 50 is a pain point for Zwift and they know it.

On one hand, it’d be really easy to add some more levels. Rewards and assets for those levels might be a bit more involved, but it’d take a few seconds (fine, maybe a minute) of engineering to add 50 more levels following the same 20k XP per level scheme as the higher levels.

On the other… I’ve moved past it. I’m not there yet but it’s coming (level 45 now). Nobody joined Zwift to gain imaginary levels, we joined to get fitter and faster and make indoor training enjoyable. Being stuck at level 50 doesn’t prevent you from doing any of those things.

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These levels don’t mean anything to me. They just say how much a rider has been on Zwift. I don’t get motivated by leveling up, but I understand that others do. For Zwift this means that some will continue to use the game because of it. If a customer loses his motivation to use Zwift, Zwift will lose a customer.

As a racer, I would be motivated by a metric saying how successful I have been e.g. last season. It could be the average result position in percent of total finishing racers. Or a badge for placing in the top 10 X number of times the current season. BTW, Zwift should have a concept of seasons for racers.

Many customers of Zwift need external motivators. I think it would be wise of Zwift to focus on badges, levels, rankings, drops, etc. to hold on to their customers.

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I’m exactly the same, I really don’t see what the fuss is about levels? It is just a number no one sees unless you really want them to and does anyone really care what level someone else is? Does it make you feel differently about them if they’re level 35 or 46? Who cares?

Why even have levels then? Just get rid of them altogether.

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I think it was just something they put at the start

It’s a computer game, computer games have levels therefore we need levels.

They also work to a point it is quite nice when starting out to have a new jersey or bike or whatever but how many do people really need?

I don’t completely not care about levels… Everyone likes it when the numbers go up. It’s something to shoot for and adds a sense of progression to the game. But, I won’t let hitting level 50 ruin Zwift for me. I can watch other numbers (FTP, kms, hours, etc.) go up.

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I think levels stand for quite a lot, certainly did for me, where I wanted to get the top kit to feel like I wasn’t in a disadvantage in races.

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