Plus there’s currently loads of racers with random low scores under 100, I suspect because the seed score doesn’t know where to place people with little recent data.
They join 0-180 and can blow them up.
I thought I was clear with my last response: you don’t. 5 minute power is the only metric you need for a good seed score.
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It´s my opinion, and if we talked to medical doctors and coaches maybe people would be surprised.
What kind of metrics for 30 sec w/kg, raw 30 sec, 10 min w/kg and 10min raw power do you think is needed to reach 100 points?
Why don’t you ask ZHQ, which promised to release the complete algorithm when ZRS went live but didn’t?
Agree 100% ZR.app’s system has proven over the last 2 years to be very good. (Although it did take a few months and some “fail-fast” iteration to get there.)
It’s the gold standard by which I measure ZRS. I always look at pre-race vELO of opponents for an idea of how things will go.
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Yes, they can. Hardly a huge statistical example, but results shown below from the HerD Beginner race earlier today. Also, I think from what I remember when I looked at trying to determine equivalency between road running and cycling. It seems that the median 10km outdoor road race entrant does the race at about a 11min mile pace, and that in turn equates to about a 2.2 w/kg cyclist.
So if a sub 100 RS can be those with <2.2 w/kg ability, why would they not want to enter a cycling-based race? In theory, equated to road runners, half of all people would in theory be less than 2.2 w/kg in ability (to start anyway).
Please explain what that has to do with people with less than 100 points not being physically capable of racing?
Ask any good coach if when they first evaluate a new client, if they neglect looking at 15 sec power, and 1 min power to evaluate what kind of potencial that athlete have?
But having said that, I wouldn´t contest a seeding like the one used by ZRApp
Come man, I´m trying to have a nice exchange of ideas here. I´m not ZHQ 
Right now, I’d say that seed score gives such a bad rank of racing ability, I’d be tempted to allocate racers into pens based on weight ranges instead.
Under-ranked racers, often lightweight good W/Kg, will take an age to increase their score to move to a more appropriate pen, because only the podium are getting small bonuses for their finish position.
Over-ranked racers, often heavyweights and good pure Watts, might never get demoted to an appropriate pen because of the seed score -15% limit.
It’s a pig’s ear system!
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We’re not looking at development potential here. It’s a simple seeding metric. And it relies on accurate max efforts, and most people don’t have accurate 30s or 10m peak numbers. Most people do have reasonably accurate 5 minute power numbers if they’re doing any serious training or racing.
One thing I think ZRS is going to lower the VI for most racers. Take the next main community race, Community Racing Festival || DBR || Innsbruckring.
Riders will learn to put their high FTP to their advantage. Instead of a sprint up the kicker and soft pedal the flats, they can hit the kicker hard and push the descent and the flats with their ftp advantage. Once they break the sprinters and they fall off, there is no way for them to latch back on in a system with no upper ftp cap.
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They are capable, but is it the best healthy way to begin/improve in an endurance sport?
(and 100 is an exemple, could be another number)
Where do you see that chart?
You seem to be making sweeping generalisations and treating everyone as wanting the same thing.
What about those who don’t have time for base training as well as racing and given the choice would rather race because they enjoy the competition?
What about those with any kind of physical disadvantage such as a medical condition, age, or something else that means that base training doesn’t mean they improve hugely in fitness?
There are plenty of other different types of people to the above as well.
Please stop trying to fit everyone into a narrow category of what they can do and what they want out of Zwift.
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on zwift’s event webpage (only shows up though after the race is complete)
eg. ht tps://www.zwift.com/events/view/4529186
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It´s my opinon, it´s not a law …and I accept that people see things in a different way. I clearly said that I´m not looking to offend people, it´s only my view of the subject.
Let´s keep it chilled and talk with open minds 
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ZHQ is focused on engagement and subscriptions. Fun and competitive racing helps with that.
For someone doing little to no exercise, and/or with poor fitness, the best exercise is the one that person will do. Whether it’s optimal training is not important.
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Improving endurance isn’t something I am after. I coast to save watts not to get stronger.
doesn’t happen here. but if you do want to discuss ZRS in a less cursed environment then i recommend tim’s proposal here:
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