So what bike beats a 5 star Cadex with DT Swiss wheels on a flat TT (10.2km) with only 53m climbing (Toefield Tornado)…..
I assume the person who won is short
So being short beats a 100 watts difference..
light weight and short seems to be the magic needed on Zwift? I don’t know… others will chime in that heavy people get the advantage…
There have been a lot of posts saying the Zwift physics, and how cda are calculated are somewhat unrealistic on the extremes. With reduced height in particular giving people a significant advantage that they in real life would not have. Not sure though.
Pretty sure we won’t see people artificially increasing their weight to get an advantage on a TT, but some will decrease their weight ![]()
It’s not like he beat me by a few seconds, it was 27 seconds…
I wonder how hard they blasted up the KOM?
It’s not super-long, but a 64kg rider could maybe knock a bit of time out of an 80kg rider if they floored it.
The minimum height for under 16s is something like 120cm and minimum weight approx 30Kg, both lower than the old zwiftpower limits iirc that were there for a good reason, as the Zwift physics get very funky at lower numbers.
There’s a young rider in pen D of the CTT TT in ~2 hours who is a strong favourite, with a weight that has been 35Kg recently and 40Kg three months ago, while their height has fluctuated between 140cm and 150cm over three months…
No, not dodgy at all Bob, no siree!
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Just a little comparison:
Rider 1 … 64.35 kg, 1.70m, 296 W … 39.5 km/
Rider 1 short … 64.35 kg, 1.0m, 296 W … 40.9 km/h
Rider 1 super short … 64.35 kg, 0.8m, 296 W … 41.3 km/h
Rider 2 … 80.2 kg, 1.85m, 393 W … 42.3 km/h
This is calculated on flat, with the same bike weight and without draft, hands on the drops (hands on the top must be advantage for short rider, too). I have no idea how Zwift calculate…
Edit - the difference hands on drops/tops is huge … 1.75m, 70kg - drag area on drops 0.3392, tops 0.4887; speed with 160W (I didn’t change the default) 31.1 / 27.8 km/h!
But, it’s only a game, and they pays their money (or parents do) so they all say when you try to point out that hacks and cheats are wrong. ![]()
Then the club leader who goes riding in the mountains for a couple of days IRL and comes back miraculously almost 30kg lighter and does a huge PR on Alpe du Zwift and brags about it on Strava. Subsequent rides mysteriously return to regular weight. Dropping that much weight and adding it back so quickly is interesting…
Another rider spotted that one.
People cheat on Zwift, not everyone does it, but everyone knows it goes on. If you want to race & win then get busy cheating seems to be the way forward.
The only advantage heavy people get is downhill. Zwift pings heavy people on their Aero on everything and even on the flat in a pack when it fact it should be pretty much even. Heavy riders should have the big advantage in sprints, its just raw power you weight doesn’t come into it really once you hit full speed and the aero difference should be minor. Heavy riders should be going up hills at exactly the same speed as light riders doing the same W/Kg, Aero difference is none existent under like 16km/hr People simply weight dope in Zwift because it pings you too hard being heavy.
Being heavy IRL is pretty difficult as well you know… Zwift isn’t unfairly penalising any one type, no matter how much people say so.
Also in Zwift it’s well known that absolute power matters, along with being 130cm high.
People wouldn’t weight rope in Zwift if it was reported on screen and suddenly weight reductions were flagged, same with miracle weight increases of 30kg or more (for downhill cheating).
That could be solved by stopping weight reductions of more than 3kg per day. The folks making themselves 500kg or 1000kg will then have a lot of time to train at that weight level.
did you ride it Flat line. did you hammer the hills ? that is big thing in zwift itt lots noob dont know about. @Mr.Ferdinand
There is only one bump in the road and it’s only .5 km at 3.7%
That first climb is only 0.1% grade..just to let you know the person who finished 3rd captured most of all the sprints and climbs. All 3 of us were within 2-3 seconds of each other…
Does anyone else find it odd that the winner’s most recent saved activity (as far as I can tell using the Companion App) was in August?
Not that odd. I wonder how many people know difference between saving your profile as private as opposed to saving your individual activities as private.
Of course always fairly easy to see weight movements but without the ZwiftPower account I believe it is impossible to check on height movements.


