# Water surfaces look grey \[1.41\] \[June 2023\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Known Issues\ **Tags:** gmplay-7302, engine-578\ **Created:** [June 3, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774 "2023-06-03T13:05:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Steve\_Clogg\_PACK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/steve_clogg_pack/32/430875_2.png) [@Steve\_Clogg\_PACK](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Steve_Clogg_PACK)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/1 "2023-06-03T13:05:34Z")
Water effects in places have lost some of their blue hue and if the sun hits it just right looks like a grey mist (1.41) ![2023-06-03_12-06-12_1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/4/d/4/4d45d9b5975425082364d05b7475d0be564b18a7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Holton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_holton/32/506684_2.png) [@Chris\_Holton](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_Holton)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/2 "2023-06-03T13:26:56Z")
Yeah, I got this too ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Holton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_holton/32/506684_2.png) [@Chris\_Holton](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_Holton)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/3 "2023-06-05T10:25:03Z")
> [@Steve\_Clogg\_PACK](#): > > Water effects in places have lost some of their blue hue and if the sun hits it just right looks like a grey mist (1.41) I got these again but in Watopia today - water was grey - think it might be the same as the over exposure issue in the tunnel that has been around for a while edit - sorry should have said was in the desert bit that has a slight uphill and water ---
**Author:** ![David\_Galbraith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/david_galbraith/32/457908_2.png) [@David\_Galbraith](https://forums.zwift.com/u/David_Galbraith)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/4 "2023-06-05T10:42:21Z")
> [@Chris\_Holton](#): > > edit - sorry should have said was in the desert bit that has a slight uphill and water “Slight uphill”!?! That’s a terrible slur on the mighty Col du Tempus! ---
**Author:** ![calfzilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/calfzilla/32/458060_2.png) [@calfzilla](https://forums.zwift.com/u/calfzilla)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/5 "2023-06-05T16:43:03Z")
In addition to water being gray, the workout arch infill color is gray too. Also sometimes the arch color is wrong on the mini-map and also the outline portion, for example here the arch is coloring blue when it’s about to go to Z4. ![8FF15F9B-DF6C-40D7-8750-26A667B89E59_1_105_c](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/f/d/2/fd276fe2715ea31337f765ae2683a98cc660a93e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![enricoclaudio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/enricoclaudio/32/507753_2.png) [@enricoclaudio](https://forums.zwift.com/u/enricoclaudio)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/6 "2023-06-05T22:02:38Z")
White water in Petit Boucle Route: ![IMG_9116](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/4/c/3/4c32e5d1ad66d8b5cfc47340c1f387e5de9c5da3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![oldnapalm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/oldnapalm/32/527041_2.png) [@oldnapalm](https://forums.zwift.com/u/oldnapalm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/7 "2023-06-05T22:35:38Z")
+1 seeing grey water bodies (Windows). ---
**Author:** ![shooj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/shooj/32/91371_2.png) [@shooj](https://forums.zwift.com/u/shooj)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/8 "2023-06-05T23:38:01Z")
Thanks for the reports everyone. So far - folks reporting this on Windows and macOS. Anybody seeing this on iOS / AppleTV / Android? ---
**Author:** ![shooj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/shooj/32/91371_2.png) [@shooj](https://forums.zwift.com/u/shooj)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/9 "2023-06-05T23:45:34Z")
Pinned on June 5, 2023, 11:45pm UTC ---
**Author:** ![enricoclaudio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/enricoclaudio/32/507753_2.png) [@enricoclaudio](https://forums.zwift.com/u/enricoclaudio)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/10 "2023-06-06T20:38:27Z")
Grey water at Titans Grove: ![IMG_9126](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/f/c/c/fccf92d4bb32367c913e3ad8533f5c455d850a43.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![oldnapalm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/oldnapalm/32/527041_2.png) [@oldnapalm](https://forums.zwift.com/u/oldnapalm)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/11 "2023-06-06T21:07:53Z")
I can confirm Android is also affected. ---
**Author:** ![calfzilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/calfzilla/32/458060_2.png) [@calfzilla](https://forums.zwift.com/u/calfzilla)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/12 "2023-06-08T13:58:27Z")
Water is normal in Watopia for me today on PC. ---
**Author:** ![oldnapalm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/oldnapalm/32/527041_2.png) [@oldnapalm](https://forums.zwift.com/u/oldnapalm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/13 "2023-06-12T15:55:18Z")
Not all water surfaces are affected. In Watopia I didn’t notice any grey water. In Makuri, the country lakes are grey but the ocean is normal. ---
**Author:** ![oldnapalm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/oldnapalm/32/527041_2.png) [@oldnapalm](https://forums.zwift.com/u/oldnapalm)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/14 "2023-06-17T15:35:51Z")
1.33.6 ![2023-06-17_12-25-21_0_clean](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/3/b/7/3b7d403f0d055e95a7eeddc15e5c8d02178d0591.jpeg) 1.42.0 ![2023-06-17_12-30-01_0_clean](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/6/6/3/6639c5ffc1212a483de85e6aa1926c4acb7d4c57.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Reading](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/martin_reading/32/481639_2.png) [@Martin\_Reading](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Martin_Reading)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/15 "2023-06-17T17:05:19Z")
Does it really matter ---
**Author:** ![Colin\_Cadden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/colin_cadden/32/435362_2.png) [@Colin\_Cadden](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Colin_Cadden)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/16 "2023-06-17T17:23:07Z")
Based on that last photo I was struggling to see the issue. I’ve often seen water look just like that though it’s normally under a grey sky 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Reading](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/martin_reading/32/481639_2.png) [@Martin\_Reading](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Martin_Reading)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/17 "2023-06-17T17:24:55Z")
Yeah just looks like some hazy sunshine reflecting off of it ---
**Author:** ![oldnapalm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/oldnapalm/32/527041_2.png) [@oldnapalm](https://forums.zwift.com/u/oldnapalm)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/18 "2023-06-17T23:20:07Z")
Yeah, loving the new feature, just like IRL when the sky is grey. Thanks Zwift, you are awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Holton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_holton/32/506684_2.png) [@Chris\_Holton](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_Holton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/19 "2023-06-18T07:52:08Z")
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not? That theory does fall.apart when the river in France, where it is always sunny, is affected as is the water in the desert. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Reading](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/martin_reading/32/481639_2.png) [@Martin\_Reading](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Martin_Reading)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774/20 "2023-06-18T08:22:08Z")
is this grey water going to effect your results if you go past it while doing a ramp test, is it going to effect your Cda while drafting a robopacer that you’ve managed to join up with after having a coffee stop half an hour into a group ride, will it cause you to miss out on a PB on a nearby segment, I would guess the answer to all of the above is … _ **NO** _ [Next page](https://forums.zwift.com/t/water-surfaces-look-grey-1-41-june-2023/607774.md?page=2)