# update **URL:** \ **Category:** Archived: General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 3, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242 "2015-02-03T01:03:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Test\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Test\_Runner](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Test_Runner)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/1 "2015-02-03T01:03:49Z")
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**Author:** ![Simon\_Oxenham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/simon_oxenham/32/60228_2.png) [@Simon\_Oxenham](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Simon_Oxenham)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/2 "2015-02-03T09:09:18Z")
Something similar to the ‘Create a Group Event’ on Strava? Casual (No Drop) Temp Hammerfest These options could be added to a ‘Join Group’ alongside the ‘Join Rider’ ---
**Author:** ![Duane\_Gran\_Vision](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/duane_gran_vision/32/886_2.png) [@Duane\_Gran\_Vision](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Duane_Gran_Vision)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/3 "2015-02-03T18:42:29Z")
I think it would make sense for Zwift to create a survey asking beta testers what they would expect to see with a group ride organizing tool in Zwift. The drafting experience likely needs to be improved a bit first, as it is somewhat challenging to ride as a group even with the best of intents. ---
**Author:** ![Simon\_Oxenham](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/simon_oxenham/32/60228_2.png) [@Simon\_Oxenham](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Simon_Oxenham)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/4 "2015-02-03T21:08:03Z")
I think that over complicates it a bit Dickson? Joining specific group rides and/or events is different \> what I’m proposing relates to general riding. Three pace bands (based on watts/KG?) \> ‘Join a Group’ would drop you into a group riding in that pace band. The course is a loop therefore if you drop off the back of a group there will always be riders to ride with or tow you back. I think for this to work there needs to be a ‘pace band’ icon added next to the riders name. Long term I would like these icons to also make a distinction between riding in ‘Free Ride/Open Group Ride’ ‘Arcade’ ‘Training’ and ‘Club/Closed Group Ride’ modes. This would avoid me having to use the Group Text to apologise for my erratic riding whilst doing intervals 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Kennedy1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Ryan\_Kennedy1](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Ryan_Kennedy1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/5 "2015-02-04T16:11:14Z")
LFG 81 SPRNTR Quarq/FLT/ZIPP Supreme Rider +PuG, looking for KOM 10% Grade only ? ---
**Author:** ![David\_Stokes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@David\_Stokes](https://forums.zwift.com/u/David_Stokes)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/update/5242/6 "2015-02-04T20:40:40Z")
I’m fairly new here, but I think a hands-off approach to group rides make a lot of sense in this early phase of Zwift. This reminds me of a university that allowed students to walk across the grounds for a while before it decided where to pave the footpaths. Let the system evolve organically and don’t try to impose a structure from the get-go. I would be interested in sometimes joining a group, but would like to feel free to come and go. A no-drop policy seems unnecessary on a 5 km course. I think more relevant is establishing a pace for the group and finding a way to communicate acceptable changes in pace. The dynamics of a group ride make it interesting, but I could imagine trolls getting on-line with the sole purpose of blowing up group rides. This even happens in real life! It might be helpful to display a map of the course showing location of groups with annotations of their average W/kg and let the user decide which one to join. If the first one didn’t work out, then you could choose another one.