# Unable to uturn on Climb portal rides **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugs and Support\ **Created:** [July 15, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534 "2023-07-15T12:11:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ben.Wu\_ReDeViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/ben.wu_redevil/32/537147_2.png) [@Ben.Wu\_ReDeViL](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Ben.Wu_ReDeViL)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/1 "2023-07-15T12:11:53Z")
As per title, been unable to uturn when i am on climb portal rides. Unable to do so on both my primary device (samsung s8 plus tablet) or my companion app (flip4). The only way i regain my uturn button functionality is if i teleport to a pacer group. ---
**Author:** ![Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gerrie_delport_odz/32/437556_2.png) [@Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gerrie_Delport_ODZ)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/2 "2023-07-15T18:19:28Z")
Hi @Ben.Wu_ReDeViL Welcome to the forum. You need to ride above ±2km/h (can’t think of the exact number) to be able to u-turn. ---
**Author:** ![Niku\_Bietrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/niku_bietrich/32/496850_2.png) [@Niku\_Bietrich](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Niku_Bietrich)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/3 "2023-07-15T18:40:58Z")
[https://support.zwift.com/en\_us/performing-u-turns-in-zwift-HyEMnL\_Vr](https://support.zwift.com/en_us/performing-u-turns-in-zwift-HyEMnL_Vr) The official line is “3mph (~5 kph)” or higher. :ride_on: ---
**Author:** ![Zee\_Kryder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/zee_kryder/32/2282_2.png) [@Zee\_Kryder](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Zee_Kryder)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/4 "2023-07-16T15:34:11Z")
I’ve noticed a few things. 1 you must hit and hold the uturn key. It no longer works if you merely tap it. 2 I find I have to do 100 watts to turn. 3 you will lose your time and progress. All of the above was done to prevent accidental upturns. ---
**Author:** ![Ben.Wu\_ReDeViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/ben.wu_redevil/32/537147_2.png) [@Ben.Wu\_ReDeViL](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Ben.Wu_ReDeViL)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/5 "2023-07-16T15:58:52Z")
thanks all, weird though as I was definitely doing more than 5kph when “mashing” or holding on to the uturn button. Will try again soon in a ride. ---
**Author:** ![Band-it](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/band-it/32/529268_2.png) [@Band-it](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Band-it)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/unable-to-uturn-on-climb-portal-rides/609534/6 "2023-07-16T16:51:14Z")
And when I did a u-turn on Puy de Dome, it was like doing a workout on AdZ that bleeds into the downhill. I had to really put out the watts, there was no coasting at all. Maybe it’s been fixed or maybe it’s supposed to be that way, but I was surprised it was so hard to go down such steep hills. 🤷🏻‍♂️