# Training with non smart trainer

**URL:** <https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563>\
**Category:** Feature Requests\
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563 "2018-10-03T13:52:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Antony\_Thornely](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/antony_thornely/32/168135_2.png) [@Antony\_Thornely](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Antony_Thornely)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563/1 "2018-10-03T13:52:47Z")

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I don’t have a smart trainer. It’s a tacx blue matic. The resistance has to be set on level 3 so Zwifts algorithms can estimate my power. As my power (FTP) has improved this setting is no longer adequate. Is there a way of putting the resistance up so I can hit the required power targets on training programs and the effort being recorded accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gerrie_delport_odz/32/437556_2.png) [@Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gerrie_Delport_ODZ)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563/2 "2018-10-03T14:13:20Z")

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No unfortunately not. Zwift will not know that your trainer is on any other setting. So if you use a higher setting it will just be harder to reach your FTP number. You could change the setting and do a new FTP test (the new FTP will be lower) then train to that. But that is a last resort.

You can change your gearing so you can reach higher wheel speed and thus higher power.

Or it may be time to get a new/used trainer with a steeper power curve. See the link below, not all are supported by Zwift.

> **[Power Curves - PowerCurve Sensor](http://www.powercurvesensor.com/cycling-trainer-power-curves/)**
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> These are the cycling trainers currently supported by the PowerCurve Sensor and the power curves for each trainer. New trainers are added on a regular basis. If you have a different trainer and access to a power meter (like a … Power Curves Read More...

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**Author:** ![Antony\_Thornely](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/antony_thornely/32/168135_2.png) [@Antony\_Thornely](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Antony_Thornely)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563/3 "2018-10-03T15:13:04Z")

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Thank you Gerrie.  
I’ll check out link.  
I have been using higher setting and re doing my FTP which works fine until I then join in a race. Then of course my FTP gets readjusted, etc etc. I also put larger chainring on but Zwift seems to have a ceiling on power output for my trainer.  
I was hoping a zwift engineer (which may be you?!) would see this and be able to create algorithm to be able to adapt if I manually input the resistance change… otherwise it’s a new trainer 😏

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**Author:** ![Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gerrie_delport_odz/32/437556_2.png) [@Gerrie\_Delport\_ODZ](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gerrie_Delport_ODZ)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/training-with-non-smart-trainer/13563/4 "2018-10-03T15:32:31Z")

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@Antony_Thornely: Unfortunately I am not a Zwift engineer.

Yes it would be nice id Zwift could program more power curves for trainers with variable resistance, like your trainer that has many settings. but i guess they have a good reason for that.

Yes most trainers has a upper limit.

It look like it is time for a new trainer, or you can get a powertap wheel so you can have “real” power numbers and you can use any setting on your trainer.
