This is coing to cost us money.... (Supported OS changes)

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2 years isn’t a reasonable assumption. The newest Android version that Zwift are deprecating is Android 8, which came out in 2017. So as long as you don’t buy a new phone that has a 3-year-old version of Android on it, you should get a lot more than 2 years out of it for Zwift support.

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Whilst not speaking specifically for Zwift, I’ve worked for other software development firms who do not support older operating systems, browsers, etc. This is pretty normal.

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you could buy a refurbished or used (read: unwanted store return), but essentially still new, mid range android phone instead. i don’t think the environment or preordained technological obsolescence by hardware conglomerates are zwift’s problems to solve, at any rate.

Supporting old OSes costs Zwift money which comes from all of us. Your desire to run old kit is putting your hand into our pockets, much happier you spend your money, not mine.

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It takes longer to develop and test when you are having to do so on various different platforms.

It also potentially restricts game development when hardware restrictions prevent some features being built (thinking mainly around memory constraints of older hardware).

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respectfully, you are the one who decided to blame everyone else and the world for your own consumption habits without thinking. for the record, if you’re tossing your phone into a landfill just because it can’t run zwift in the future, i recommend selling or giving it to someone who just wants a phone that works instead

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Given that Zwift haven’t said they’re dropping Android 9 and 10, I suggest that there’s more to this than the above.

I sympathise with the desire to keep old hardware in use, but mobile testing is relatively complex and expensive, taking resources that could be used to do better testing on fewer platforms. I suspect most users would be happier with better testing of features and more effort put into product development. If the phone is in good condition, consider donating it to charity and buying a recent-model used device to replace it.

As a developer who ends up with several older devices that used to be used for development, one way to continue using an old device is to update using a Android Open Source Project (AOSP) version such as Lineage. I use an old Nexus 6P with Lineage to run the Companion application for example.

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I’m one of the people affected by this as my phone i use for ZCA is about to be made redundant.

I can’t really complain as it’s about 7 years old.

I’ll look to pick up a cheap phone somewhere…unless anybody here wants to donate one to me. :pray:

Can it run iOS 12? That version got a reprieve for Companion (see the main thread on minimum OS versions)

I’m on Android. Might try a custom ROM.