Today I did Stsge 2 of TdZ and went up in ZRS points, so far so good.
The guy in front of me ( I was 21 and he 20) came by blasting the tiles out at the finish, at 400m to go 25 sec behind and at finish 20sec ahead do I cjevkef that guy. Surprised me that he gone up 2 points at ZRS from 288 to 290.But we where in rhe 160-270 cat!!!
How can he enter our cat?
The rider had a score within the category limit at the start of the race, the system prevents anyone entering the pen if their score is too high.
The ZRS results currently show the score movement as a result of the finish position. That isn’t necessarily all of the movement since the start of the race.
The rider in question must have set a new 5 minute PB and from that increased their seed score above their previous score. A recent change to ZRS is that people are now moved to that seed score, previously their score would only have moved if their new score floor (seed minus 15%) was above their previous score.
That score movement happens immediately and becomes the initial value for the results movement.
At this stage there is no icon to show that this score movement has happened, that is something zwift needs to add.
Yeah, it would certainly reduce some of the confusion people have around how ZRS movements work (not all of it though).
Sorry Tom but the cat was 160’270
He got 2 points and went up to 290.
According to my calc he started at 288
No, his new seed is 288.
The result does not show the movement since the start of the race. It shows the movement only from the finishing position.
this is the person in question, his ZRS at the start was 228, he set a new 5 min PR/PB, he hadn’t done 3.8 in 5 minutes since last August. @Tom_Shelton is correct.
Okay I think I get it; but wouldn’t it be beyyer to show the points he gets for that PB instead of adding them invisible?
Yes. Yes it would.
There is no good reason for ZRS score decay, it helps far more sleeper racers rejoin racing in lower pens than it helps returning racers after an injury and/or health issue that reduced their performance.
Seed scores should be going back much further than 90 days when a user has data, at least nine months if not 12 months.
This particular racer that upset OP did 5mins 3.8W/Kg today, he did similar back in August and was doing 4.1W/Kg last January in races. The pen allocation should not be allowing those sort of numbers in the second weakest pen in a five pen system!
My only slight concern is that since Category Enforcement began in early '22, is that we are grading racers off a single effort. What if their turbo wasn’t calibrated well that time, due to ambient room temperature change during a cold or hot weather snap? What if they had forgotten to change their weight to their real weight before the effort? What if this best effort came from a climb right at the start of a short race, when they had fresh legs anyway, which they simply couldn’t get near if doing a true aerobic effort for ~20mins+ beforehand (such as Hell Of The North used this week in TDZ races)?
In that respect, the old Zwiftpower pen allocation looking at three best efforts gave some leaway.
Okay, closr topic☺️
