Steering again

No HUD races were great. Totally different race dynamic…
I won one in front of really better riders: when you don’t know what other are doing and only react to what you see, there is an advantage for attackers. When you get away, without hud poeple don’t know how hard you are going and stop chasing soigner…

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I look at them a lot to know when to put more power

No HUD is pointless now with so many people using Sauce.

That’s why I wrote « were » :wink:

Sauce can be blocked - there is a specific tag that can be added to the event that blocks Sauce from displaying data.

No HUD and force people into first person view would be an interesting race

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I agree that would be interesting.

This, combined with a built-in way to review a race replay with power data (a la Rocket League) is one of the best ways to fundamentally improve racing. Would force people to think about who their competition is, encourage communication within a team, consider the course, and give people a chance to see what happened before raging. Back on topic though, is there a reason why Zwift couldn’t enable steering through other peripherals? I can’t imagine they’re making huge margins on Play.

Zwift does make steering available through other peripherals - indeed, that has been an option since before the Play controllers were available.

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For a keyboard or Xbox controller (or something similar)? The last I saw on this was that Zwift had locked everything down to very specific products.

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Aside from the Play, there’s the Sterzo, JetBlack Turn Block, and Elite Rizer. There used to be a Wahoo kickr Steer thing, but not sure what happened to that.

Last day of Zwift Shop sale, where the Play controller pair is £49.99 in UK (plus £7.50 Fedex postage).

Had mine since Friday but all I’ve done so far is charge them and upgrade to latest firmware, partly as my flat bar hybrid is still on my Saris H3.
I’ve thought about stacking another stem above flatbar for my spare road bars to attach the Plays, but I’m also thinking of finally swapping out the turbo cassette for an 11-speed so my road bike can use the tuirbo and have the hybrid ready to go out in grotty winter weather.

Still trying to get my head around how I’ll pair them, as currently my H3 and Coospo heart rate monitor pair via an ANT+ dongle to our old Surface Pro 4, but the Plays need Bluetooth.
Can I pair up ANT+ devices as normal and then switch to pairing to my mobile to connect the Plays over Bluetooth via the Android Companion app?

My old Xiaomi Mi A2 that I sometimes use to run Zwift app directly has ANT+ and Bluetooth, so I guess that can pair up turbo/hrm via ANT+ and then pair the Plays.

The Kickr Bike too.

Maybe hard to call that a peripheral though

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:rofl: Fair comment!

And Tacx neo bike

There are few (or no) serious Zwifters who work on the Zwift product. The constant issues and design choices make that obvious.

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simply show speed as in indieVelo/TP Virtual and most real life cycling coverage. Wkg doesn’t tell you anything, unless its a long sustained climb.

I ride in camera 3 which gives a much better impression of whether riders are getting closer (larger) or further away (smaller) and I modulate power accordingly

Strange that PD5 or some part of it has been on in Watopia for 2 weeks and there has been no announcement or any sort comment by any developer/mod saying that it is on and what should be expected in the near future like they are doing with ZRS.

What is it, is this bug fixed or not? If so I can go back to racing TTT with the guys on my team that already have steering.

It seems pretty good in free rides in watopia, but the new dynamics don’t seem to be used in any events yet. So that’s still a no to TTT outside of ZRL.