Right now, a ride outside gets 5 XP per km, up to 1000XP per day. I propose to remove this restriction. I am an ultra-endurance rider, and I often ride more than 200km / 124 miles in one day. It would be nice to get 1500XP for a 300k ride and 2000 XP for a 400k.
I agree with you on this, but the serious Zwift only riders will almost certainly furiously disagree.
They probably don’t want you getting extra any XP at all for outside rides.
You could run Zwift on a phone, have some addon battery packs (to keep the phone charged) and connect Zwift to the power meter on your bike (if you have one) and record the ride that way.
That way you have no XP restriction.
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They should also give you drops for outside rides as well,I understand they want people to use the platform to keep it looking busy,but during most of the summer months i’ll cancel or put my subscription on hold that would change if i was earning bigger xp and drops.
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So you want more points on the platform for not using the platform? I’m not sure it’s right that any offline (IRL) rides should count.
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Zwift disagrees and has done it probably as a measure to keep people engaged with Zwift in the summer season when they’d normally just bail out on Zwift completely.
Having XP (and maybe drops also) for outside rides gives a bit of incentive to still stay engaged with Zwift. Otherwise you might just say, I’ll pause my account while it is summer.
I do get the XP from outside rides, but I also ride massive amounts on Zwift as well no matter what time of the year.
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they’ve done it purely in a financial capacity to keep people paying, no other reason
personally i don’t see why people when riding outside should get zwift credit/bonuses, then again I disagreed with their stupid XP level up changes that helped newer users level up faster than existing ones
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That’s engagement, and better to have paying users than not or at worst case scenario have no Zwift at all.
you call it engagement, I call it something else, they haven’t done it out of the goodness of their heart, it’s done purely to keep the money coming in
That’s what engagement is - providing an incentive to keep people interested in using the product, but it’s entirely voluntary. Personally I ride on Zwift all year round and I don’t import my outdoor ride data because the incentive doesn’t interest me so there’s no reason to offer up the data.
I didn’t realize there was a limit, but I assume that was put in place to avoid people “gaming” the system by uploading bogus rides somehow to get massive amounts of XP?
pretty much that. The number of people that regularly ride over 200k in a day must be a fraction of a percent so i think it’s better to have it as it is currently as a somewhat safety measure to stop people uploading bogus rides to strava
Short answer,.. no
Sounds to me you are using the game to push you to ultra-endurance, where the extra XP should be a bonus to pushing yourself to ultra-endurance accomplishment. Don’t ride for a game,.. ride for yourself,.. some people can’t separate the 2.
My thoughts
I do ride for myself, but it would be nice to get extra credit for the effort in the game as well. The game gives XP bonuses for different in-game challenges, so rewarding ultra-endurance rides with extra XP would go along that line.
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This is just another I find Zwift, and other apps like it, a bit odd, Personally I use them to get fit & that’s it. All the rest of it, XP, drops, bikes, kit etc is just fluff that you can do without. Let’s face it, if you’re out on the road cycling you get exactly none of it, and none of it keeps me engaged one iota.
I also ride ultra distance IRL but find it really strange that you can earn experience points on Zwift, without actually riding on Zwift. I’m happy enough with the 1000XP limit.
It’s completely reasonable to care about the incentives they provide. That’s why they exist.
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But the bogus teleport and descent/coast rides (with 0 watts) are no issue and are allowed, so an outdoor ride of 150-200km should get appropriate XP because that person did really ride, rather than operating a keyboard or some bot automation.
I’ve previously done a lot of big distance rides on weekends, it wasn’t unusual for me to clock up 350-400km on a weekend. I focus on elevation gain now but it’s certainly not unusual at least in my area to find people clocking up huge distances outside on bicycles.
Getting credit for real genuine outdoor rides is fine by me. Keeps engagement happening rather than the possibility that some people close their account.
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i agree but its how you police it is the problem. Which i think given the small percentage that will do such riders its probably the right balance at 200k
bogus teleport and descent etc are also stupid