Many group rides are lead by Yellow beacons that ride over the advertised watts per kg. If a rider loses the draft of the group around the Yellow they are dropped quickly. Today I completed an advertised 1.8-2.0 watts per kg at 1.9 watts per kg a full 5 minutes behind the yellow beacon. Zwift shoul…

Had you stayed in the group do you think you would have finished the ride with the same average power? The advertised pace usually works as long as you’re in the draft. It’s normal to have to dig very deep to get back into a group if you get dropped out the back. If the beacon was using a TT bike …

I can ride at the pace the yellow beacon was riding. In fact I caught up to the yellow to see that she was riding around 2.5 watts per kg. She explained that she needed to ride at that level because she was replacing the 85 kg man who usually lead the ride. Her higher wattage paired with his weight …

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It’s true that if a leader is not respecting the pace, it’s difficult for everyone. Nevertheless, it’s still possible to lose the pack for some reason even though the leader is perfectly at the advertised pace. Then, if you don’t have anyone dropping to bring you back, staying on your own at the pro…

Falling out of the group means losing the draft effect. Without the draft, you have to put in more watts to keep the speed up. Losing five minutes is not wrong in this case. If you close a gap, the wattage increases. I would ride with a slower pace partner. The yellow :yellow_heart: beacon isn’t the…

[image] Ludo Team CLS: In group rides even with fence on you still have often flyers… And dropped people. Leading is a tough job! But I’m with you that a leader needs to lead which means check the numbers. While not forgetting that if it’s not fully flat, the pace will go higher during climbs an…

I think it is not fair to generalize from just a single group ride experience. As a frequent group ride leader I can tell that most leaders try very hard to keep the advertised pace. But I also know, that it is an unpleasent experience to get dropped though. You need to always keep in mind the foll…

Is there a means of organizing the ride with draft turned off, or putting everyone on a TT bike? I’m guessing someone has tried this experiment.

[image] JOHN: putting everyone on a TT bike TT bikes now draft off other TT bikes… or is that only in TTT events and not out in the free ride world?

I believe only in TTT events, or other events that specifically have draft enabled such as the Torturefest 100K

Poor Yellow Beacon Pace Compliance

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Mike_Rowe1 (Mike) December 26, 2022, 11:48pm 4

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Poor Yellow Beacon Pace Compliance

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