You already know what my opinion is
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Weird part about Zwift is that they insist on inventing the wheel over an over again spending months of resources, time and money and most of the time come up with a half ready poduct while they are already âworkingâ together with people who have it done and ready.
ZRS - They had to build an own system, hiring Phd Scientists who knew it all and which fails misserably and after 18 months still is terrible. While zracing.app was and is miles ahead of Zwifts creation.
AI - The already have a partnership with Join.CC which does an amazing job at giving you training and adjusting when you want to do something completly different.
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Agreed that ZR is better, but Iâve been doing the ZRaces this past month and havenât had any issues with flyers and obviously-miscatted racers blowing up races. Iâve been in the low-mid 500s ranges so canât speak to what itâs like in the low-end though. Or maybe Iâm the flyer and not minding being at the front regularly competing for podium positions (Iâm often the highest ZR-rated person in the pen, or close to it). But I think ZRS is at a place where itâs generally âfine.â
And agree on general sentiment though. Lots of reinventing the wheel that already exists, and without listening to the people who know their product best.
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Echoing here the previous comments WRT being able to turn this feature off, it is completely useless for my Zwift experience, and also having another half baked AI based bell+whistle being foisted on us veteran Zwift users. As time goes on, the optics continue to show to me that despite Zwiftâs tooting their horn that their large user base and community is oh-so-precious and unique to their smart trainer app platform, they are *NOT* listening to us when it comes to what features are being worked on, and other improvements that they absolutely need to work on and deploy (cough, âsortable items in the garage and saveable frame/wheel equipment configs, and why not a riderâs 3 or 4 favorite virtual clothing choices like jersey+socks+gloves+headwear+glasses, cough).
As time goes on Iâm really beginning to lose my patience. Iâm ready to trial other smart trainer app platforms like Rouvy and FulGaz.
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While I do get frustrated by Zwiftâs refusal to listen to my good ideas, most of the things I complain about are not âdeal breakersâ for me and I think my experience on Zwift is still better than the alternatives.
I am the OP for sortable garage.
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ZRS is not âfine.â At best its current state would be a successful framework test.
It is better than nothing, but it reacts way too slowly both up and down for people who donât race multiple times per week, it is incapable of doing anything with points races and canât handle races that donât use categories.
ZwiftRacing.app is âfine.â Also has issues, but I would absolutely comfortable using it for race categorization, other than that I canât enforce pen entry for it. Youâll still end up with some fliers whoâve never done a representative 5min effort, but canât do much about those.
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It could move faster but if you stop trying to make it be a way to compare racers, rather than a way to make sure that most of the participants are in the appropriate pen, itâs generally working fine. Especially if you consider that ZRS is targeted towards ZRacing more than anything else.
Native pen enforcement for ZRapp would be awesome but Iâm not going to hold my breath.
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I would really like to be able to turn this feature off. It is just clutter on my screen both at the start of a ride and on the companion app.
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THIS!!! Or even make Bologna into a legitimate world. There are beautiful flat and mountainous roads all over that place IRL. But you know futuristic subways and neon roads seem to take priority.
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While I completely agree with you, at this point Iâd even settle for moving the BETA ai stuff to its own tab on the home screen instead of blasting it and stealing substantial real estate.
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But we canât have real roads, because people (or person) canât ride them IRL if theyâve ridden them in Zwift. 
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I think this is brilliant, makes time saving of planning yourself and has got me into productive mode frequentlyâŚ
Itâs quite intense and would like to have more recovery rides and cadence drills included, then it would be complete. I ride before work for an hour so itâs great and sets me up for the day.
Itâs recently disappeared from my app screen not sure why 
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Iâm in week 5 of the Build me Up plan in Zwift, and the personalized recommendation workout was âDevedesetâ, which is week 1.
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⌠those senile veterans, we wonât/canât listen to them ⌠
Zwift has to keep up with their competitors implementing AI features, to attract and acquire new customers - the number of subscribers counts in a difficult post-covid era. In addition, they have to spend money and resources in âtour avecâ, they restartet the hardware business, with a partner this time after failing some years ago. They had to increase their prices for the membership. Though, the overall limited resources result in low development speed in the old main business, in poor QA, etc. ⌠Iâm âinâ in winter time because of their meetup function and the good custom workout management (besides the good old 5W rounding bug) and âoutâ on free mw in summer time, other than in the past years with a continuous membershipâŚ
Iâd like to be able to turn this feature off. The algorithm doesnât take any account of age and hence the declining ability to recover from one session to the next. Zwift Companion relentlessly describes my condition as âfreshâ when Iâm anything but. Also, I share the concerns that have been expressed about use of AI.
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Please at least move Next Up to the bottom of the layout. It hasnât earned the right to take up space on the front page.
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Youâre tired and need rest. The next session should obviously be⌠an all out 20 minute effort 
If youâre going to implement something like this at least do it well enough not to offer daft suggestions
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Has there been a response to any of these concerns from Zwift?
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You got Tadej PogaÄarâs recommendation, for him a 20 minute all out effort is a rest day 
AI = Actual Inanity