# Pain-cave photos/equipment ideas

**URL:** <https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 4, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382 "2022-03-04T01:46:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/21 "2022-04-29T00:14:07Z")

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Very nice.

I’m going to add an aviation them to my pain cave.

My office at home has framed all the vintage Boeing 707 adverts from the late 1950s, from launch and into entry to service.

My pain cave will have posters for General Electric GE4 turbojet (for B2707) and Bristol Olympus turbojet for Avro Vulcan.

They just need to be framed and hung on the wall.

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**Author:** ![Otto\_Destruct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/otto_destruct/32/505718_2.png) [@Otto\_Destruct](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Otto_Destruct)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/22 "2022-05-17T11:06:36Z")

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New mounting hardware (Bontrager Blendr Duo base, Garmin low mount) arrived, as well as the [Foothill Products Trainer Tray](https://www.foothillproducts.com/buy/trainer-tray) with [Out Front Mount](https://www.foothillproducts.com/buy/out-front-mount), replacing the Tacx Tablet Mount with phone tray.

 ![PXL_20220516_152829977.PORTRAIT](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/8/8/9/889f191e69f53b7b569436548daa7947b18c6432.jpeg)  
 ![PXL_20220516_152850588.PORTRAIT](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/4/0/9/40930afe6e3a57a69e287aca9a10a4ed4bb1e055.jpeg)

Several rides into it, loving the Trainer Tray. It’s super easy to remove and install when taking the bike outside. The additional “out front” mount would put a Garmin Edge right where I’d want it. (planning to add that this season instead of using sport watch)

I’m really curious how most people mount or store their phones when using the Companion App. Desk in front or beside the bike? Handlebar mount?

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**Author:** ![Dave\_ZPCMR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dave_zpcmr/32/462346_2.png) [@Dave\_ZPCMR](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dave_ZPCMR)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/23 "2022-05-17T11:43:11Z")

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Cheap phone case from eBay with some slots cut in for velcro straps, which hold it to the stem. Bit of foam underneath was needed to fill the gap, total cost was about £3. I just snap my phone into the case, works perfectly. Out front mounts don’t work for me because I use a towel draped across my handlebars.

 ![IMG_20220517_124316](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/c/d/4/cd42973d9c5ccff81b92a280318ca13a8c816f96.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Freighter](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/freighter/32/527502_2.png) [@Freighter](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Freighter)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/24 "2022-05-17T12:30:33Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/d/a/8/da86c2305672e075e09271ab1c2ce51c0c98c89e.jpeg)

2 fans: one mounted to the floor joists above and one on the floor. 3 screens: left for discord or course maps, upper, music/videos, lower for riding game(s).

ZCA: used to work on my Hammerhead k2 on my bars but now I’m back to my phone on the storage tubs to my right.

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**Author:** ![Dean](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dean/32/489893_2.png) [@Dean](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dean)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/25 "2022-05-17T19:49:38Z")

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> [@Otto\_Destruct](#):
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> I’m really curious how most people mount or store their phones when using the Companion App. Desk in front or beside the bike? Handlebar mount?

Velcro on stem for 8’ tablet.

Edit: pic from the shed - can just see the white velcro under tablet.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/4/a/e/4ae620eb83e81a3e26745f267a66d133f4fc1bb6.jpeg)

Note - the SurfacePro is not used for Zwift and I’d never recommend one - it runs network diag stuff and Spotify / VLC while riding.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Gechlik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gary_gechlik/32/465088_2.png) [@Gary\_Gechlik](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gary_Gechlik)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/26 "2022-05-18T04:06:22Z")

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I have the same trainer. I have an Apple TV 4K module and a 4K monitor on the wall, and on the bars I have a holder for the I-phone. It is fantastic. Sometimes I want to warm up or do a high intensity fitness session, guess what. I ride intensely for 15 minutes, get off the bike, lift weights, do squats, get back on the bike, repeat in fifteen minutes. I live in one of the best places in the world to road bike on Skyline Boulevard in Palo Alto, also one of the best places to Gravel Bike, and I just want variety on the trainer. What I like to do, watch Apple TV Music videos once I get off the bike, it is a blast, on the bike, Zwifting, off the bike, Music Videos it is a blast. I have a rule, if I Zwift, I have to go out and ride. Zwift is not a substitute for me, it is augmentation tool. I like the short rides with planks and gravel and cobbles the best for the road feel. I think the climbs are harder on Zwift. I like climbing. I have some favorite California Climbs, all spectacular, nothing climbs as beautifully as the North Entrance of Big Basin State Park.

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**Author:** ![Dean](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dean/32/489893_2.png) [@Dean](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dean)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/27 "2022-05-18T10:05:25Z")

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> [@Gary\_Gechlik](#):
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> I have the same trainer.

Same trainer as …??? Pic or it didnt happen.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_ZPCMR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dave_zpcmr/32/462346_2.png) [@Dave\_ZPCMR](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dave_ZPCMR)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/28 "2022-05-19T18:35:00Z")

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Decided this looked pretty shite so I bought a new case. 🤣 Same principle though. This one cost a fiver.

 ![IMG-20220519-WA0001](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/7/0/a/70a3e816d014625aab08ebfc1fe6a7de88d0171b.jpeg)  
 ![IMG-20220519-WA0002](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/5/4/d/54dec2c508f11c72ff5c9e770dd0903fb61b3e85.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![CouchTo1200K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/couchto1200k/32/433615_2.png) [@CouchTo1200K](https://forums.zwift.com/u/CouchTo1200K)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/29 "2022-05-19T20:26:48Z")

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> I’m really curious how most people mount or store their phones when using the Companion App.

Nothing fancy. Can’t take a pic because my phone is my camera… but I got a cheap (~$3) “waterproof” phone case from Amazon and some stick-on Garmin mount adapters, and I put it on my out front mount.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Rowe1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/mike_rowe1/32/530428_2.png) [@Mike\_Rowe1](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Mike_Rowe1)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/30 "2022-09-21T17:43:22Z")

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> [@Mike\_Rowe1](#):
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> I think Mark Lewis should roast your paincave @Daren

And… he did, LOL

Skip to 2:15 for Daren’s roast

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/5/3/c/53cbaf78e9581680518d13dd0d54bc74fd5be475.jpeg "Reacting to your HOME GYM SETUP FAILS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StS-XgshbiA)

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**Author:** ![Dean](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dean/32/489893_2.png) [@Dean](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dean)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/31 "2022-09-21T19:06:38Z")

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🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Rowe1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/mike_rowe1/32/530428_2.png) [@Mike\_Rowe1](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Mike_Rowe1)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/32 "2022-09-21T19:14:39Z")

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“I don’t know if anything highly flammable is stored amongst all that, but I really hope so…”

“You know what this needs first, some speakers duct taped to my TV screen, that’s the priority here”

🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![Daren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/daren/32/5836_2.png) [@Daren](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Daren)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/33 "2022-09-21T19:17:55Z")

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Isopropanol is flammable I’m pretty sure. Not sure how he missed that! 🤣

Also, the speakers are in the _perfect_ place for me to hear my music! Where else am I gonna put them? On the floor?! =)

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**Author:** ![Shakes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/shakes/32/47767_2.png) [@Shakes](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Shakes)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/35 "2022-10-28T07:52:12Z")

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Saw someone that made an immersive screen on Reddit over the summer. Looked quite amazing and since I had one projector collecting dust I’d figure why not try? Although ideally you have more than one projector that would be besides my initial point of using something I had. Although might still get a second one in the future though…

Anyway, setup by it self:

 ![PXL_20221026_090039595](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/1/2/f/12ff01fc8390aa8f1f9d7f7f731d5e678f3c170d.jpeg)

However, better to see it yourself. Still need to fine-tune the screen display, fix up holes and put a proper paint for improved quality. Short clip uploaded to YouTube: [Zwift Setup Test - YouTube](https://youtu.be/eH1XTTj-k3c)

Much better than my old setup with old laptop on trainer table. In camera view three it feels immersive which was the point. So quite happy even though I theory it would be better with a second projector and especially with short throw ones (but that I didn’t have) as when Im in a full sprint standing on pedals I have a slight shadow at bottom now.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_ZPCMR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dave_zpcmr/32/462346_2.png) [@Dave\_ZPCMR](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dave_ZPCMR)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/36 "2022-10-28T08:14:01Z")

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That’s ace. Where’s the projector mounted, ceiling? You could do with a PC upgrade so that you can hold 60fps all the time. 😉

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**Author:** ![Shakes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/shakes/32/47767_2.png) [@Shakes](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Shakes)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/37 "2022-10-28T09:35:06Z")

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Ceiling indeed! Still need to hide cables though.

 ![PXL_20221028_093152837](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/2/3/6/2366b801d10f8218de1240224bbc5e4436b05e48.jpeg)

New PC: First followed your advice that it doesn’t need to be expensive. So computer from 2018 with a NVidia card I had already far outperforms my old laptop. We still need things to desire so new PC might be for next year :-). Looked at your suggestions but couldn’t quite get it as cheap as you manage!

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**Author:** ![Otto\_Destruct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/otto_destruct/32/505718_2.png) [@Otto\_Destruct](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Otto_Destruct)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/38 "2022-11-15T01:48:31Z")

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When you want to run all the things.

 ![PXL_20220313_185535832](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/1/e/9/1e9742b239a301d253c6e463d4836035c4403669.jpeg)

That’s the Tacx Tablet holder with the [DIY phone holder](https://forums.zwift.com/t/phone-tray-add-on-for-tacx-tablet-bracket/576285/1). Phone running Companion App, iPad running ZwiftGPS to show position on map, and an AppleTV driving the 32" TV.

This was a fun config for big events or particularly long rides. I also had a tab open on the iPad for [ZwiftMap.com](http://ZwiftMap.com) which I will never not put a plug in for - super easy tool for visualizing routes and seeing what you’ve got coming up for sprints and KOMs.

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**Author:** ![phatboyfree](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/phatboyfree/32/537472_2.png) [@phatboyfree](https://forums.zwift.com/u/phatboyfree)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/39 "2022-12-19T00:07:15Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [Forum sub-section request: pain-cave photos/equipment ideas](https://forums.zwift.com/t/forum-sub-section-request-pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/38):

Hey Otto! Nice riding with you today. Came to see your awesome Zwift setup!

Here’s a pic of our setup.  
We’re using AppleTV’s, KICKR Bikes, 42" 4k Monitors - and I use a MacPro when I’m riding by myself (or one of us is racing) we take over both monitors with Sauce for Zwift! ha!

We just use up front garmin mounts (cheapo copies) for our iPhones. That way we don’t need remotes or keyboards - just use the phones for the AppleTV’s and the MacPro.

Music is really important, so we have a 12" subwoofer and a couple Yamaha powered studio monitors with a bluetooth setup so its easy to connect anyones phone to. (3 of us use the cave)

It’s backlight in pink and blue and looks great at night.

 ![IMG_2864](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/e/e/a/eead36f7b23f7c62dd2e98b0ad4f768c38812eb9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/40 "2023-01-01T23:48:44Z")

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![trainer-cave1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/7/0/9/709a9a5958797dda330f50738fd0dd3d32968dd6.jpeg)  
55" Hisense 4K TV connected with HDMI, Kickr Bike. Lenovo Yoga mini-laptop. MacOS 12.6.2 and because someone will ask, the wallpaper is a Peugeot 905 Evo1B powered by Peugeot SA35-A1 3.0L V10. It is chassis EV13 which was restored and reactivated.

 ![trainer-cave2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/d/3/1/d31116ecc32e80f8271e9bc9f5b7777109796f6a.jpeg)  
My former work Mac Pro now doing Zwift and FulGaz duties.

So that’s my trainer cave. Kickr Bike running through bluetooth or ANT+ depending on what is needed and industrial fan on the floor. Sound is via Bose Soundbar 700 (optical connection to Mac Pro) and Bose Bass Module 700. I’m using the current Apple wireless keyboard and a Logitech wireless mouse.

I’ve got two computers - the Lenovo laptop that goes overseas when I’m riding abroad for logging my rides and other general stuff. It also does the old fashioned PerfPro Studio which I use for intervals - that’s on Windows 10.

The “big mac” is the Mac Pro I got brand new in 2010 for AUD$5900 with a 27" LED Cinema Display. It was a single 3.2ghz quad-core Xeon and had a pitiful 8GB RAM, a Radeon 5870 GPU with 1GB RAM and very classic 1TB spinning HDD. I can’t even remember what MacOS it came with, but it was a very old one but it was a super reliable computer for my work use.

I ended up giving this unit an upgrade. I obtained an eight core (2x quad core) second hand Mac Pro from an ad-agency and swapped the CPU tray out, then this old thing got:

_2x Intel Xeon X5690 Westmere 3.46ghz (each 6 core, 130w)_  
_Radeon RX580 8GB_  
_1TB Samsung SSD_  
_Opencore 0.8.0_  
_MacOS Monterey 12.6.2_  
_128GB DDR3 1366mhz RAM (8x16GB ECC)_  
_upgraded WIFI and bluetooth chip (for document hand-off, apple watch unlock, airdrop etc)_

It started giving kernel panics mid way through last year so I replaced it with a modern 2019 Mac Pro for work, then I put the old thing away until I was physically able to get it out and try to solve the problem. The kernel panics related to one of the CPUs (CPU A, the one at the back) failing. I got a couple of X5690s from Amazon cheaply and replaced the dead CPU. And it’s back working.

So the old machine lives again and it runs Zwift. This one was never moved about so it has no scratches, dings or other marks on it and looks brand new.

The other donor Mac Pro has my old single CPU tray in it and has the same RX580 graphics card, a 2TB SSD and a Xeon X5690 and other similar upgrades. It was running Zwift before.

I’m quite lucky that they run Zwift very reliably. I’ve also got FulGaz running - I swap between FulGaz and Zwift.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/pain-cave-photos-equipment-ideas/579382/41 "2023-02-26T17:39:17Z")

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