# New Halo Bikes, New Drop Shop Bikes \[March 2025\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Zwift Game\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496 "2025-03-18T15:04:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Zee\_Kryder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/zee_kryder/32/2282_2.png) [@Zee\_Kryder](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Zee_Kryder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1151 "2025-04-27T10:42:16Z")
I have to say, “well said”. This is true presently although it was so many years ago and all talk about false mileage has long since become silent. What was it, back in March of 2025. That seems forever ago. Sorry to resurrect such an old thread. EDIT This was a light hearted look pretending that this issue was years ago and had long been forgotten. I’m trying to look ahead, that this issue seems temporary. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_J](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/tom_j/32/473097_2.png) [@Tom\_J](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Tom_J)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1152 "2025-04-27T16:55:23Z")
> [@Zee\_Kryder](#): > > Sorry to resurrect such an old useless thread. Luckily this thread _is_ giving us the opportunity lately to hear from some professional Life Coaches, so we got that going for us, which is nice. ---
**Author:** ![Sjuren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/sjuren/32/535741_2.png) [@Sjuren](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Sjuren)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1153 "2025-04-28T05:27:34Z")
> [@Chris\_D9](#): > > > [@Peter\_Twigt](#): > > > > There are people doing 5 to 10 hours a day downhilling > > Which is cheating. You should be earning that descent by riding uphill first. Thats called integrity. > > I hope you haven’t been doing this dropping. Cheating according to who? I believe Zwift makes the rules What you mean to say is, you don’t like it @Chris_D9 ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1154 "2025-04-28T05:32:56Z")
> [@Sjuren](#): > > Cheating according to who? > I believe Zwift makes the rules > > What you mean to say is, you don’t like it @Chris_D9 Tell me, are you capable to ride 75km in 1 hour under your own devices through normal means while doing just about minimal power on Tempus Fugit? You are trying to obfuscate the issue. People are doing the upgrades properly by grinding out the distances (as I have done). While others are sitting on the lounge while on holidays with their computer doing no riding at all using hacks, maybe doing the entire 440km of a level 5 upgrade without being on the bike or even raising a sweat. You cannot realistically say that’s right. One is right (the folks on a bike and grinding out the distances), the other isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sjuren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/sjuren/32/535741_2.png) [@Sjuren](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Sjuren)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1155 "2025-04-28T05:46:56Z")
> [@Chris\_D9](#): > > People are doing the upgrades properly by grinding out the distances (as I have done) while others are sitting on the lounge while on holidays with their computer doing no riding at all using hacks. And it happens in every game. It’s not a game changer An upgraded Halo bike ain’t that much better (if better) than a top tier bike. The Pina is worse. It’s a skin. If you are worried by performance, the are some REAL issues for the 15% racing that are far more important to look at. So what is your issue here? I am not saying it is right or wrong IMO, but your issue is not them getting a performance boost, so what is your issue? ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1156 "2025-04-28T06:51:28Z")
It’s about doing things properly. Let’s say I go ride Tempus for 440km at 38km/h at my normal real weight and this gets me a level 5 upgrade at roughly 11.6 hours. Highly unlikely - it’s probably going to take me a week of riding. The guy descending downhill at 1000kg doing teleports at 75km/h relaxing on the lounge does the same distance in 5.9 hours roughly. You cannot possibly tell me the second one is fair and correct? All the mental gymnastics in the world won’t justify the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Sjuren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/sjuren/32/535741_2.png) [@Sjuren](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Sjuren)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1157 "2025-04-28T07:09:54Z")
> [@Chris\_D9](#): > > The guy descending downhill at 1000kg doing teleports at 75km/h relaxing on the lounge does the same distance in 5.9 hours roughly. So…One of the BIG issue here is that people can alter their weight how often and at what interval they want….And that affects the game far more and in more aspects than getting a Halo bike I do agree thoughthat teleporting is an exploit, an unintended mechanism in the game, but it is up to zwift to do something about it. And this thread confirms that PARTS of the community wants it dealt with ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/philip_b/32/508602_2.png) [@Philip\_B](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Philip_B)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1158 "2025-04-28T07:46:42Z")
Large parts of the community as it makes zwift management look like a joke and that they don’t care about the actual users that pay their wages. ---
**Author:** ![Aoi\_Niigaki](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/aoi_niigaki/32/481652_2.png) [@Aoi\_Niigaki](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Aoi_Niigaki)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1159 "2025-04-28T09:24:30Z")
Just finished stage 5 of the Hell of the North race seriesr which finishes atop the petite KOM in France (not in a velodrome? missed opportunity). Absolute clown show on the road that goes up Ventoux. One rider with 325km on the clock in only 4 hours. Zwift allowing this nonsense does nothing to improve Zwift’s reputation as a serious training platform. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy-Cat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/crazy-cat/32/34356_2.png) [@Crazy-Cat](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Crazy-Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1160 "2025-04-28T10:31:52Z")
I was in France yesterday and saw the same clown show. Ven Top has never been so busy since the bike upgrades got rolled out! ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Melville](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/tim_melville/32/530308_2.png) [@Tim\_Melville](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Tim_Melville)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1161 "2025-04-28T11:21:11Z")
Who needs to teleport or ‘join friends’ anyway? I can honestly say that I have not done it once in 4.5 years of Zwifting. I’ve never been riding along and knowingly had one of my friends pop up, unsolicited, beside me, either. How about Zwift pausing accrual of XP, drops, and upgrade/mission metrics at the point when a rider deploys a teleport, until the end of that session? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Southworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/paul_southworth/32/538336_2.png) [@Paul\_Southworth](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Paul_Southworth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1162 "2025-04-28T11:42:04Z")
That’s absurd, the feature is definitely used by people who join friends and are not cheating. There is nothing wrong with your lack of interest in the feature but it’s useful and there’s no reason to penalize people for using it. Calculating upgrade progress with an eye to people actually riding (eg, Watts \> 0) is a much better solution, similar to how drops work. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1163 "2025-04-28T11:57:32Z")
Some folks commonly use bots to falsify their data so Watts \> 0 wouldn’t adequately cover that. Watts \> 0 would also impact the people who have ridden up the entire climb and are coasting down it (eg, vEverest types). You would need to have a check on expected elevation already gained since the start of the climb and/or some other checks to see that the rider has passed through expected waypoints that would be normal for riding up: - Alpe du Zwift - Ventop - the Grade - Epic KOM If the rider has gone through those waypoints uphill, then they will get credits for the distance achieved on the big descent, if they have not then they don’t get distance credits for the upgrades. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Southworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/paul_southworth/32/538336_2.png) [@Paul\_Southworth](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Paul_Southworth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1164 "2025-04-28T12:00:27Z")
100% in favor of doing more about bots as well, but most of the people ruining this new feature are not using bots and probably won’t start. Most of the suggestions I’m seeing in this topic seem unreasonably complex, which I think means no chance of them being implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/philip_b/32/508602_2.png) [@Philip\_B](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Philip_B)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1165 "2025-04-28T12:02:00Z")
Maybe so but SOMETHING MUST be done to stop these cheats as that is all they are dirty cheats. ---
**Author:** ![Rich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/rich/32/431690_2.png) [@Rich](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1166 "2025-04-28T12:09:59Z")
zwift will never do anything regarding bots/ant+ simulators, its been nearly 6 years since cam jeffers got a british cycling ban for his account using a bot to level up to the tron as it was at the time the fastest bike, but this then asks why a national e-race didn’t have neutralised equipment but that is a whole different debate, and nothing has changed in that time for controlling/stopping the use of them. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy-Cat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/crazy-cat/32/34356_2.png) [@Crazy-Cat](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Crazy-Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1167 "2025-04-28T12:21:32Z")
A couple of years ago, I repeatedly reported a Bot via the “report user” function on Zwift Companion. After a couple of months of nothing happening I messaged James Bailey and within 24 hours the account was permanently banned. Makes me think reporting via ZC app goes in to a blackhole! ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/philip_b/32/508602_2.png) [@Philip\_B](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Philip_B)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1168 "2025-04-28T13:05:49Z")
You could be right I have reported a couple of bots and they have never been banned seems the report a user is useless then. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_J](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/tom_j/32/473097_2.png) [@Tom\_J](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Tom_J)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1169 "2025-04-28T13:19:38Z")
> [@Sjuren](#): > > I do agree thoughthat teleporting is an exploit, an unintended mechanism in the game, but it is up to zwift to do something about it. > > And this thread confirms that PARTS of the community wants it dealt with Great, so if you agree it’s A) not an intended use of the system and B) it’s detracting from some users’ enjoyment of the system, then it is **definitely** a violation of the Zwift TOS as explicitly stated. Seems odd to me to see people defending what is a clear TOS violation, to keep demanding some definition of ‘cheating’, etc. It’s a violation of the terms that users agree to. Simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Southworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/paul_southworth/32/538336_2.png) [@Paul\_Southworth](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Paul_Southworth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496/1170 "2025-04-28T13:36:41Z")
Whether or not it’s a ToS violation is irrelevant to me, because I prefer to look at it like a customer which means judging based on the quality of the experience, and there’s no need to bring in the lawyers for that. [Previous page](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.zwift.com/t/new-halo-bikes-new-drop-shop-bikes-march-2025/650496.md?page=58)