Missing badge after following robopacer

I have followed D Taylor today around Sprinter Playground, stared about 1KM before start, and completed the lap, but no badge was awarded.

I read various posts about this. Lead-in is 0.2 Km. I did not teleport, nor miss a turn and definitely went through the start stop banners in correct order.

I joined the group before the arcade, the start/finish being after, almost at the top of the map below.

Strava thinks I completed it. Not a big deal, but I would like to understand how it works to do better next time.

I don’t know if it’s standard but I’ve had the same before, I carried on & completed another full lap, as opposed to just finishing where I started, and got the badge.

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I’ve never gotten a badge from following a robopacer unfortunately. I haven’t been on Zwift that long, but as far as I know, you have to start the route from the menu to get the route badge. If I’m wrong, I’m sure someone will correct me.

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2 replies with conflicting behaviours.

Which is exactly what I have experienced myself. Sometimes I get it sometimes not.

Ideally zwift should clarify the matter and why not add some indication if a lap will qualify for badge.

One extra laps of Prospect Park is one thing, The Big Ring is another.

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I think it may have to do with the fact that following the robopacer doesn’t complete the lead in (which is necessary for the badge?)

Zwift says the lead-in is required. Some routes have no lead-in so those would be relatively easy to complete.

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Did you join taylor from the game menu, or manually while already in the game doing a free ride?

That same FAQ doesnt say anything about the lead-in during the robopacer section, so I’m assuming the lead in gets ignored?

The pacer won’t keep doing the lead in - they will be doing laps of the route without the lead in. I think they do the lead in exactly once until the pacer gets restarted the next week, which makes it impractical to use them for route badges on routes with a lead in.

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Unless you start as a free ride on whatever route the RP is doing, do the lead-in and then wait for the RP to come by.

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Even though Zwift says that you have to do the lead-in, I don’t think that’s true and I suspect they were trying to explain that there’s usually a lead-in distance to take account if. So if you are doing a 40km route that has a 2km, don’t ride 41km from your spawn point and assume that the route is done.

I really don’t think that Zwift are saying that you must always complete that lead-in distance before crossing the start line.

Of course I might be wrong, but it would seem like a weird bit of extra coding to make sure you complete that lead-in distance and not just check between the start and finish banners.

the last discussion I saw on this, some riders said they only got the badge after their third time crossing the finish banner, while some said it was on their second pass.

With RPs which are like free rides where you’re joining another rider, I’ve wondered how the Zwift game would know which specific route you’re riding, if the RP’s route could encompass other smaller routes, or alternatively be a smaller part of another longer route?

The thing about getting badges with a Robopacer seems like a long-standard bug, i.e. it being flaky. I’m pretty sure you should in theory get the badge if you cross the start line and continue to the finish line without going off-course or doing a u-turn.

I suggest that anyone who does ride the whole route with a RP from start to finish without u-turns etc and doesn’t get the badge then should contact Zwift support, and support should be able to sort out the badge.

RPs are always assigned to a specific route, and that’s the one you should get the badge for, and both the game and Zwift support know this route assignment. You shouldn’t expect to get the badge for any routes that form part of a bigger RP route.

I wish that they would give badges for routes that are encompassed by larger routes - would give more motivation for riding the longer routes, knowing that I won’t have to redo it again

I’m glad they don’t because I really enjoyed the opportunity to collect badges and didn’t want to lose those chances. Once I got most of them I had to look around for other things to motivate me.

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Yes, but you’re not joining an event or selecting a route for a free ride, you’re effectively doing the same as joining/finding a friend who happens to be riding a specific route you want a badge for. But it seems the Zwift app can’t read your mind that this is your intent, or at least it can’t until you’ve done the same route more than once.

Yeah, you have to select the route from the list of all routes to ride it so you can get the badge. Starting the ride by joining a pace partner doesn’t count, neither does starting from wherever and manually making all the turns that complete the same set of roads that make up the complete route, lead in and all. However if you encounter a robopacer while riding the route, you are of course free to join it. I guess the distinction was clearer with the old start screen.

I don’t think this is correct, but as I suggested I think a long-standing bug means that it sometimes (often?) works as you suggest.

See the below Zwift staff responses which basically say that you can get route badges riding with RPs, as long as you don’t teleport to the RP:

Except if they were really just group rides, you shouldn’t be able to steer off course.