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i wasnt offering. build your own pc

not if the brand new tablet is too weak to run it properly no. astute observers may note that an “apple tv” is designed for streaming netflix on, not running computer games. obviously zwift runs like sht on that. you can build a second pc for like $250, probably less, that will run it in ultra no problem and watch all of your problems disappear like magic. from the insane amount of words you keep writing about those first world problems that sounds like it would be more than worth it to you

apologies for not reading every word of all of your posts, they’re really long

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And repetitive.

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No one thinks Zwift is well-optimized, but it runs ultra profile in 1080p at an acceptable framerate on a 4th gen i5 and a gtx 770 which was a mid-range card literally a decade ago.

I’m also running it on an ancient Mac Pro 2010 on latest MacOS Monterey version with an old 6 core Xeon X5690 (3.46ghz) - a long superseded processor and a middle of the road RX6600XT Radeon GPU. With that I use 4K Ultra and it runs fine.

That machine I got second hand (and very cheap) for its parts (mainly the original dual CPU tray) and I ended up upgrading it with the RX6600XT, putting a single CPU tray in it and then getting an X5690 Xeon (about $40 or something like that) and putting it into service for Zwift only. It has run now for years without a glitch.

It sits in the corner of my pain cave beside the 4K TV and that’s all it does. It actually has Windows on it as well, not that I use that too much. I don’t know what I’d replace it with if anything goes wrong with it. I have an Apple TV as well but dislike using it - the resolution looks awful on Zwift.

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I think the ‘problem’ here is that for many build a own pc isn’t as easy as some here make it to be.
The reason why AppleTV is a succes, is because it’s easy. Not only in use, but also in it’s promise:
U pay X and you are sure to get X. It works.

Now with building a own PC… let alone knowing how to actually build a pc, think people can youtube enough these days to get it working… but what do you buy. You can’t see the forest because of the tree’s… theres a billion gpu’s and cpu’s to choose from…

If Zwift made a “Zwift-PC” guaranteeing graphics and performance costing more than a appletv I am sure people would still buy it.

There are so many guides on what CPU and GPU and what not to buy… yet… for allot of people thats to hard to understand or they end up paying near 800€. Im not saying you’re wrong, I am saying it’s not that black and white :wink:

I went to business school, not engineering (zero technical background), and just to clarify, I’m definitely not a gamer! :smile: These days, building a PC is surprisingly straightforward. All you need is:

  1. Case/Power Supply
  2. Motherboard
  3. Memory
  4. Video Card
  5. Hard Drive

Plug-in, then, just install Windows, and honestly, it’s a lot simpler than following a recipe to bake a cake! :birthday: or buy one already built. There are a lot of them…

Once you’ve tried Zwift on a PC, you may not want to use it on any other platform. I’ve used them all due to travel requirements, by the way.

sure. just expecting it to run much better than it currently does on those devices is asking a bit much… it’s impressive they run on them at all. as a guy who does run zwift on a decent PC, i have to say i think zwift is already far better optimised for low end devices than high end hardware already

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Again you’re still not getting it. zwift doesn’t run well on any tablet, no matter how powerful it is.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t read them. It does if you don’t read them but reply to them. Pick one or the other. Preferably the first option at this point. Thanks.

He can’t have repeated something he didn’t do in the first place.

i am getting it. there are no powerful tablets, full stop

Dont be silly. The requirements for zwift are small. It’s like the ultra profile suggests graphics cards that are generations old now 10 series and the like.

This isn’t something like sim racing on VR that is still slow even with water cooled 4090 ti blah blah blah.

There’s no reason for it not to be improved on tablets. A thing to note is they’ve just released a zwift bike and one of the accessories for that zwift bike they’re charging £40 for is a tablet holder. Well, make it worth buying a tablet holder and putting a tablet on it Eric.

But, as important, for those of us who have a desktop PC, fix it so it works better with steam link too.

Yes, but the conversation you didn’t read was about tablet hardware not PC.

The problem I pointed out with the PC version is simply that it doesn’t play well with steam. Something they could fix quickly and easily.

The chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Considering Zwift already operates smoothly on numerous devices, it may be more practical to use a device that is suitable for Zwift or to seek an alternative application. Probably, Zwift will never perform optimally on Steam, and the niche market for this does not justify the investment :wink:

I mostly ignored it because it’s not reasonable to have high expectations for 3D video games on tablets

I was talking about you.

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Perhaps but it’s not really a 3d video game per se, and, you know, they sell tablet holders in the zwift shop…and released a version for tablet. To me that’s almost as if Zwift think it should run on tablets.

They could have improved the way zwift interacts with the PC version if they thought there was no point writing a tablet version.

Yes, but I can’t repeat something to someone who hasn’t read it the first time and he was replying to them.

And I can only work with what I have, I wouldn’t have had to repeat this Dan if you got it the first time. You’ve got to meet me halfway here.

I read every word of your multiple ramblings. I got it the first time.
It gets tiresome to read the same thing over and over and over and over and over.
I posted in this thread early on about drops before you started your dozen+ posts rant. My next post was about you being repetitive.
I don’t have to meet you anywhere.

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It is a 3d video game, that’s not debatable.

And it does run on tablets. You just have unreasonable expectations for performance.

No it doesn’t and I’ve already explained at length why alternatives are either broken or not practical. I don’t want to upset Dan by repeating it, but suffice to say I’m using zwift through steam - that’s not going to change for at least a year - and I want to see that improved (and other things)

What? They’ve had nearly half a billion in investment. Haha. Comedy gold. We’re talking about something that a bright intern could do in an hour or two - assuming they took an hour for lunch.