# Best Device to use for Zwifting **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 16, 2024, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938 "2024-02-16T08:10:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gabi\_Roa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gabi_roa/32/503747_2.png) [@Gabi\_Roa](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gabi_Roa)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/1 "2024-02-16T08:10:10Z")
I have an HP Laptop with Ryzen 5 and Radeon Vega, which crashes every time I launch Watopia., Anyone had that issue? I have a Zwift Hub One and just ordered a Samsung Tab S9, would they work together? If I find a solution for the laptop, ideally id save the tablet money,… since I only bought it for zwift ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/2 "2024-02-16T08:47:17Z")
> [@Gabi\_Roa](#): > > I have an HP Laptop with Ryzen 5 and Radeon Vega, which crashes every time I launch Watopia., Anyone had that issue? Is it overheating? Is it worth getting a fresh install of Windows on that machine? ---
**Author:** ![Gabi\_Roa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gabi_roa/32/503747_2.png) [@Gabi\_Roa](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gabi_Roa)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/3 "2024-02-16T10:58:54Z")
IT doesnt overheat, maybe re installing could work, dont really want to spend the 500 euros or more of a new tablet. Problem is also that the bluetooth is fucked an even the mouse disconnects all the time. oh man, this hobby is expensive ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Southworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/paul_southworth/32/538336_2.png) [@Paul\_Southworth](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Paul_Southworth)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/4 "2024-02-16T11:56:20Z")
You mean the laptop crashes or Zwift crashes? It’s possible this is a video driver problem, but in that case a Zwift application crash is a bit more common than the laptop dying. The latter can also be due to hardware problems such as bad memory or a poorly mounted heat sink. Stress testing the laptop with memory testing and benchmarking utilities might reveal if that’s the case. And if you haven’t turned off the video screenshots setting in Zwift that might be worth trying as well. The Samsung tablet will work fine, but that laptop sounds decent and should perform better than the tablet. ---
**Author:** ![Gabi\_Roa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/gabi_roa/32/503747_2.png) [@Gabi\_Roa](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Gabi_Roa)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/5 "2024-02-16T12:11:25Z")
Right? I mean its only 4 years old and was quite decent, not top notch but OK, and it runs basic games like Age of Empires very decently. I will try again by turning off the videos and all that… may be worth a try. Samsung tablet sounds great etc, but if not super needed, id rather save the money. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/6 "2024-02-16T17:52:34Z")
Give it a clean install of windows and video drivers, that might be enough to get it going again. Then put Zwift on after that and just see what happens. Maybe something is conflicting and causing crashes. Step by step elimination to find the cause. ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Bova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/stephen_bova/32/446018_2.png) [@Stephen\_Bova](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Stephen_Bova)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/7 "2024-02-17T21:32:49Z")
AppleTV4k is the best bang for your buck. It costs $129 and it works great with very good graphics and frame rate. It is what I use and I love it. ---
**Author:** ![Kev\_Lewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/kev_lewis/32/536622_2.png) [@Kev\_Lewis](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Kev_Lewis)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/8 "2024-02-17T22:18:13Z")
> [@Stephen\_Bova](#): > > very good graphics and frame rate You’re getting 1080p at 30fps, but most importantly the basic graphics profile. So you’re seeing the bare minimum amount of scenery and no rider shadows. I’m not going to get into the whole Apple TV vs PC debate, but you can spend a similar amount on a used pc and graphics card which will result in a better experience. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/9 "2024-02-18T00:28:41Z")
> [@Stephen\_Bova](#): > > with very good graphics and frame Unfortunately the graphics are fairly ordinary.but the device is simple and fast operating. I’m using an old Mac Pro from 2010 with an upgrade to a 6 core Xeon X5690 and a Radeon RX6600XT flashed so it is compatible with the Mac. I also run opencore so this machine runs Monterey 12.7.4. It is very stable and didn’t cost much. The graphics are 4K ultra as well. It can run windows on another SSD but I haven’t set that up so far. I also use Ant+ so that’s a big benefit to a dedicated computer. ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Bova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/stephen_bova/32/446018_2.png) [@Stephen\_Bova](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Stephen_Bova)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/10 "2024-02-18T12:14:53Z")
A PC for $120? ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Bova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/stephen_bova/32/446018_2.png) [@Stephen\_Bova](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Stephen_Bova)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/11 "2024-02-18T12:16:03Z")
I said bang for your buck. Not better or best. ---
**Author:** ![Milan\_Rost](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/milan_rost/32/407827_2.png) [@Milan\_Rost](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Milan_Rost)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/12 "2024-02-18T12:16:29Z")
> **[Zwift on PC: The Ultimate Guide to Running Zwift at Its Very Best](https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-pc-guide-2/)** > > Answering all the “Zwift performance on PC” question in one post! ---
**Author:** ![Kev\_Lewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/kev_lewis/32/536622_2.png) [@Kev\_Lewis](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Kev_Lewis)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/13 "2024-02-18T13:43:48Z")
Yes, you can given prices here in the UK at the moment. I recently saw a suitable secondhand office PC sell for £25 on eBay and used graphics cards are very cheap at the moment. So: PC - £25 Graphics Card - £75 ( WiFi dongle - £15 (Amazon) Bluetooth dongle - £14 (Amazon) Total - £129. The best price I can find for an Apple TV box here is £149. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Hammatt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/steve_hammatt/32/210763_2.png) [@Steve\_Hammatt](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Steve_Hammatt)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/14 "2024-02-18T15:10:16Z")
> [@Kev\_Lewis](#): > > The best price I can find for an Apple TV box here is £149. How about for a secondhand Apple TV, given that you’re comparing with a secondhand PC? ---
**Author:** ![Kev\_Lewis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/kev_lewis/32/536622_2.png) [@Kev\_Lewis](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Kev_Lewis)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/15 "2024-02-18T15:34:53Z")
That’s fair enough. I’d see secondhand Apple TV 5th gen boxes sell for around £70 on eBay. But the comment I was replying to was asking for a comparison with the cost of a new box. ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Bova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/stephen_bova/32/446018_2.png) [@Stephen\_Bova](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Stephen_Bova)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/16 "2024-02-18T15:49:23Z")
No. Not a TV. The AppleTV4k box. [Here!](https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-tv/apple-tv-4k/64gb?afid=p238%7CsMsNRMlmI-dc_mtid_1870765e38482_pcrid_652838197329_pgrid_147153193906_pntwk_g_pchan_local_pexid__&cid=aos-us-kwgo-pla-btb_lia--slid---product-MN873LL%2FA) ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Bova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/stephen_bova/32/446018_2.png) [@Stephen\_Bova](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Stephen_Bova)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/17 "2024-02-18T15:57:09Z")
The other advantage to the AppleTV box is that it boots up in seconds. It updates automatically. I use the Companion app to bluetooth bridge the trainer and HR monitor. **I know. It doesn’t have a rider shadow and as many details like as many bushes and giant squirrels all over the place but it’s super easy to just plug it in and it works.** You guys trying to turn this into an Xbox Series X game are hysterical. It’s not a bike simulator. It’s an app to get in shape for real life. I’ve been using the same AppleTV box for 2 years and there has been zero technical issues. I get on the bike, turn it on and I’m connected and riding in less than 1 minute. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_D9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_d9/32/541335_2.png) [@Chris\_D9](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_D9)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/18 "2024-02-18T18:50:21Z")
> [@Stephen\_Bova](#): > > The other advantage to the AppleTV box is that it boots up in seconds. It updates automatically. I use the Companion app to bluetooth bridge the trainer and HR monitor The only other thing I dislike is when the Apple TV doesn’t work properly on Zwift, I had lost rides because of it. Thats why I went over to an old second hand desktop Mac (it was originally got for something else). You can find the ride in progress and manual upload it if needed. I still have Apple TV 4K here but rarely use it. Years ago I also got burned by the inverted gradient resistance bug on Apple TV version of Zwift. Fortunately I had an iPad that could be used for Zwift (no desktop at the time). ---
**Author:** ![Satisfied\_Fool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/satisfied_fool/32/520782_2.png) [@Satisfied\_Fool](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Satisfied_Fool)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/19 "2025-03-20T11:01:22Z")
Can anyone recommend an all in one PC to run Zwift at its peak? Bear in mind that I’m lazy and incompetent so I won’t be building anything myself. I’m talking off the shelf. Would be interested to know how much it would cost. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Southworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/paul_southworth/32/538336_2.png) [@Paul\_Southworth](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Paul_Southworth)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938/20 "2025-03-20T12:22:41Z")
All-in-one Windows PCs generally do not have a dedicated GPU which means they will not run Zwift at its best. There are a few out there that do, but they are very poor value compared to a standard mini-tower desktop PC. A Mac Mini M4 is a better option if you want all-in-one with a small form factor. I’m assuming you are OK with having a separate display right? A mid-range desktop gaming machine with an Nvidia GPU is the usual way to get a good pre-built PC for Zwift. I would choose one with the fastest CPU clock speed rather than lots of cores, so that usually means an Intel CPU. [Next page](https://forums.zwift.com/t/best-device-to-use-for-zwifting/624938.md?page=2)