# Apple TVOS14 Picture in Picture **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 16, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472 "2020-09-16T18:50:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nigel\_Tufnel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/nigel_tufnel/32/487824_2.png) [@Nigel\_Tufnel](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Nigel_Tufnel)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/1 "2020-09-16T18:50:22Z")
I see that the new Apple TV OS version 14 is adding picture-in-picture. Can anyone confirm/deny if this will work such that I can Zwift AND watch the TdF (in the NBS Sports app or otherwise) at the same time? And, if possible, how would I do that? ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_ZPCMR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/dave_zpcmr/32/462346_2.png) [@Dave\_ZPCMR](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Dave_ZPCMR)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/2 "2020-09-16T19:23:05Z")
Some people on the big Facebook group have been beta testing it, worked fine I think. Not sure about sound though. ---
**Author:** ![D.M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/d.m/32/431944_2.png) [@D.M](https://forums.zwift.com/u/D.M)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/3 "2020-09-17T05:22:08Z")
I thought this would be a cool feature, but with the headaches seen with the ATv remote (which is pretty much the only way to control Zwift on ATv) I personally think it’s more novelty than functional. I’m interested in the testers comments. For now I will stick with Zwift on ATv alone while watching something on a tablet, or vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Hammatt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/steve_hammatt/32/210763_2.png) [@Steve\_Hammatt](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Steve_Hammatt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/4 "2020-09-17T07:07:30Z")
I wonder if Zwift is even supported on tvOS 14 yet. ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Barber\_CRYO-GE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/chris_barber_cryo-ge/32/49041_2.png) [@Chris\_Barber\_CRYO-GE](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Chris_Barber_CRYO-GE)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/5 "2020-09-17T08:57:43Z")
I found picture-in-picture pretty limited during beta. Only the AppleTV app seemed to have the option to go into PiP mode and then if you opened Zwift in the main window you lost sound from the video. Maybe in time more apps will support picture in picture. My ideal would be putting Zwift in the small window whilst doing a workout and watching something on the main window. I think this would depend on Zwift allowing PiP mode (not even sure if this is possible for apps - maybe limited to video content). Another option would be to Airplay Zwift from phone to the small window but I can’t see if that’s possible either. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Osterkamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/mark_osterkamp/32/402918_2.png) [@Mark\_Osterkamp](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Mark_Osterkamp)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/6 "2020-09-17T15:15:03Z")
It is. I rode this am on 14. It was no different and no issues. ---
**Author:** ![Nigel\_Tufnel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/nigel_tufnel/32/487824_2.png) [@Nigel\_Tufnel](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Nigel_Tufnel)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/7 "2020-09-17T16:16:49Z")
Would you be able to provide some insight as to how to run the PiP with Zwift and, say, the NBC Sports app? ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Osterkamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/mark_osterkamp/32/402918_2.png) [@Mark\_Osterkamp](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Mark_Osterkamp)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/8 "2020-09-17T16:45:17Z")
I can put the picture from the Apple TV app in any corner but sound comes from Zwift instead of the TV show. Fine for sports but talk shows, not so much. I’ll play around with it later today to see if I can get Zwift to minimize to a corner, which I doubt, or to get sound from the small picture. ---
**Author:** ![Nigel\_Tufnel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/nigel_tufnel/32/487824_2.png) [@Nigel\_Tufnel](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Nigel_Tufnel)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/9 "2020-09-17T17:02:40Z")
But how do I actually initiate the PiP? That is, how do I start up an app, and then start a second app and put one of them into the PiP? ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Rowe1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/mike_rowe1/32/530428_2.png) [@Mike\_Rowe1](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Mike_Rowe1)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/10 "2020-09-17T19:10:15Z")
not sure if this is helpful Nigel, good luck figuring it out. > **[Control what’s playing on Apple TV](https://support.apple.com/guide/tv/control-whats-playing-atvb7944597f/14.0/tvos/14.0)** > > On Apple TV, use the remote to play or pause content, skip forward or back, get more info, or turn on subtitles. ---
**Author:** ![Nigel\_Tufnel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/nigel_tufnel/32/487824_2.png) [@Nigel\_Tufnel](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Nigel_Tufnel)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/11 "2020-09-17T19:34:22Z")
Thanks, Mike! I’ll give that a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Mayfield\_TVTC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/rich_mayfield_tvtc/32/47767_2.png) [@Rich\_Mayfield\_TVTC](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Rich_Mayfield_TVTC)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/12 "2020-09-18T19:44:29Z")
Yeah, I’m seeing the same as a previous poster. I was _really_ hoping that this would work in tvOS 14 with Zwift. Even if it’s Zwift as the main app and my movie playing PNP, it’d be much better than what I’m doing now. Hey Zwift, can you let the PNP take over the sound? I don’t need the game sounds while I’m watching a movie. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Huchel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/martin_huchel/32/532298_2.png) [@Martin\_Huchel](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Martin_Huchel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/13 "2020-10-06T10:28:42Z")
![Alle Fotos - 1 von 1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/original/4X/9/2/7/927031780288737021ce753fac3d0680c839af08.jpeg) I stream on my Apple TV via the GCN app. Disadvantage: I only hear the sound from Zwift - not from the stream. It would be great if I could hear the sound of Swift and the stream at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Stark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/david_stark/32/438272_2.png) [@David\_Stark](https://forums.zwift.com/u/David_Stark)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/14 "2020-11-07T16:40:57Z")
If the app you are trying to put in picture doesn’t support pip (like dazn I found). You can start that video on another device (iPad), do screen mirror or airplay to the tv, then do pip to it and start Zwift. I haven’t tried this, but this may work for Zwift if you want it in the small window. Do mirroring from you phone/pad, start Zwift on your phone/pad then select the pip on the tv to send the mirror of Zwift small and then start the video you want on the tv. ---
**Author:** ![branislav\_rataj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/branislav_rataj/32/425490_2.png) [@branislav\_rataj](https://forums.zwift.com/u/branislav_rataj)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/15 "2021-02-28T02:38:25Z")
Any updates on this? What i am trying to achieve is put youtube video playing in small window in corner and getting sound from it, while having zwift on big screen. ---
**Author:** ![Daniel\_Lawson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/gozwift/user_avatar/forums.zwift.com/daniel_lawson/32/432531_2.png) [@Daniel\_Lawson](https://forums.zwift.com/u/Daniel_Lawson)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.zwift.com/t/apple-tvos14-picture-in-picture/507472/16 "2021-04-06T20:29:07Z")
Doesnt seem like we’re asking for much does it? It works fine on the ipad but transferring to Apple TV seems like a step backwards for picture in picture and Zwift!